Week 9 2019 · November 3, 2019
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Buccaneers at Seahawks, Week 9 2019: who deserved to win?
The Seahawks beat the Buccaneers 40–34 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10. The Buccaneers had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 38 points of win probability to the Buccaneers.
Before kickoff the Seahawks were 62% favorites. The game turned on a luck play (Q3, 4:11 left): Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play, worth 25 points of win probability to the Seahawks. The biggest single swing (Q4, 10:48 left): the Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 5.
Final (OT)
| 34 | |
| 40 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +20 Seahawks about even · −20 Buccaneers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Buccaneers win 2, Seahawks win 8.
- 1 TB 29 SEA 13
- 2 TB 25 SEA 21
- 3 TB 17 SEA 20
- 4 TB 24 SEA 28
- 5 TB 33 SEA 40
- 6 TB 36 SEA 48
- 7 TB 16 SEA 31
- 8 TB 17 SEA 37
- 9 TB 27 SEA 50
- 10 TB 34 SEA 65
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Buccaneers win 20% of them, Seahawks 80%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Seahawks by 6.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 2.3% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 5.1% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 11.0% |
| Level after regulation | 1.9% |
| Seahawks by 1–8 | 18.6% |
| Seahawks by 9–16 | 21.7% |
| Seahawks by 17+ | 39.4% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Myers, 47 yds missed · 74% expected
- M. Gay, 50 yds missed · 74% expected
- M. Gay, 41 yds made · 86% expected
- J. Myers, 37 yds made · 90% expected
- J. Myers, 22 yds made · 98% expected
- M. Gay, 45 yds made · 81% expected
- J. Myers, 40 yds missed · 87% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
Penalties: Buccaneers 10 for 82 yards, Seahawks 4 for 45 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 11:44 | Roughing the Passer on the Seahawks (Bobby Wagner), 9 yards | +5% TB +1.5 pts |
| Q1 2:22 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Seahawks (Tre Flowers), 16 yards | +5% TB +1.0 pts |
| Q2 10:28 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Seahawks (Tre Flowers), 10 yards | +3% TB +1.2 pts |
| Q2 9:42 | False Start on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% SEA +0.6 pts |
| Q2 5:00 | False Start on the Buccaneers (Antony Auclair), 4 yards · pre-snap | +2% SEA +0.9 pts |
| Q2 0:48 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Buccaneers (Devin White), 38 yards | +8% SEA +4.0 pts |
| Q2 0:40 | Defensive Offside on the Buccaneers, 0 yards · pre-snap | 0% SEA +0.1 pts |
| Q3 11:34 | False Start on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% SEA +0.9 pts |
| Q3 4:11 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +25% SEA +4.8 pts |
| Q3 2:01 | Defensive Holding on the Buccaneers (Sean Murphy-Bunting), 5 yards | 0% SEA +0.2 pts |
| Q3 1:16 | Offensive Holding on the Seahawks, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +13% TB +2.8 pts |
| Q4 12:01 | Defensive Holding on the Buccaneers (Ndamukong Suh), 5 yards | +4% SEA +0.9 pts |
| Q4 0:35 | Defensive Offside on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +6% SEA +0.4 pts |
| QOT 7:45 | Illegal Contact on the Buccaneers (Jamel Dean), 5 yards | +9% SEA +0.7 pts |
Buccaneers penalties, every game · Seahawks penalties, every game · All teams, 2019
When it happened
Seahawks’ chance of winning
As low as 11% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 0:56 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +10% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q3 6:12 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 53% expected | +8% TB | TB: Field goal |
| 3 | Q3 4:11 | The game turned hereOffensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +25% SEA | SEA: Field goal |
| 4 | Q3 1:16 | Offensive Holding on the Seahawks, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +13% TB | TB: Punt |
| 5 | Q4 10:48 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 42% expectedThe Buccaneers fumbled and the Seahawks recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +33% SEA | TB: Field goal |
| 6 | Q4 0:03 | J. Myers missed 40-yard field goalKicks · 87% expected for him | +28% TB | SEA: Touchdown |
| 7 | QOT 7:45 | Illegal Contact on the Buccaneers (Jamel Dean), 5 yardsJudgment calls · 2 flags in 82 snaps before, position avg 1 per 199 | +9% SEA | SEA: Touchdown |
| 8 | QOT 6:55 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +24% SEA | SEA: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Justin Britt (SEA C), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Will Dissly (SEA TE), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Ethan Pocic (SEA C), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Quinton Jefferson (SEA DT), out · 0.3 pts
- Tedric Thompson (SEA FS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- O.J. Howard (TB TE), out · 0.6 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Buccaneers 12% · Seahawks 88%
- Final margin
- Seahawks by 6
- Luck in points
- 5.4 for the Buccaneers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Seahawks by 11.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Buccaneers 20% · Seahawks 80% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2019 games ·
Buccaneers ·
Seahawks
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