Week 10 2021 · November 14, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Panthers at Cardinals, Week 10 2021: who deserved to win?
The Panthers beat the Cardinals 34–10, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Panthers win 5 of 10. Luck ran their way: injuries alone were worth 16 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Cardinals were 70% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 13:41 left): the Cardinals were stopped on 3rd & 5, worth 22 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
| 34 | |
| 10 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +47 Panthers lucky · −47 Cardinals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 5, Cardinals win 5.
- 1 CAR 33 ARI 10
- 2 CAR 21 ARI 6
- 3 CAR 16 ARI 6
- 4 CAR 19 ARI 13
- 5 CAR 28 ARI 26
- 6 CAR 22 ARI 24
- 7 CAR 21 ARI 26
- 8 CAR 17 ARI 27
- 9 CAR 14 ARI 29
- 10 CAR 0 ARI 27
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 53% of them, Cardinals 47%, counting the 5% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Panthers by 24.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 12.0% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 15.2% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 21.6% |
| Level after regulation | 5.4% |
| Cardinals by 1–8 | 21.3% |
| Cardinals by 9–16 | 13.8% |
| Cardinals by 17+ | 10.8% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- Z. Gonzalez, 44 yds made · 83% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 48 yds made · 76% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 49 yds made · 75% expected
- M. Prater, 47 yds made · 77% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 27 yds made · 98% expected
Penalties: Panthers 9 for 115 yards, Cardinals 4 for 58 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 11:18 | Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Panthers (Cam Newton), 15 yards | +4% ARI +1.8 pts |
| Q1 10:27 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Panthers (Haason Reddick), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% ARI +1.6 pts |
| Q1 6:25 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +3% ARI +2.2 pts |
| Q2 9:36 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +3% CAR +2.6 pts |
| Q2 6:23 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards | +1% ARI +1.4 pts |
| Q2 5:56 | False Start on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% ARI +0.4 pts |
| Q3 13:28 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (D.J. Moore), 10 yards | 0% ARI +1.9 pts |
| Q3 12:59 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals, 10 yards | 0% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q3 7:06 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Cardinals (Marco Wilson), 33 yards | 0% CAR +2.3 pts |
| Q3 5:34 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (Donte Jackson), 35 yards | 0% ARI +1.9 pts |
| Q3 4:41 | Delay of Game on the Cardinals, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CAR 0.0 pts |
| Q4 11:44 | Face Mask on the Panthers (Jermaine Carter Jr.), 15 yards | 0% ARI +1.9 pts |
| Q4 2:20 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers (Keith Taylor), 10 yards | 0% ARI +0.9 pts |
Panthers penalties, every game · Cardinals penalties, every game · All teams, 2021
When it happened
Cardinals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 55%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:41 | The Cardinals were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 39% expectedThe Cardinals fumbled and the Panthers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +22% CAR | ARI: Turnover on downs |
| 2 | Q1 13:34 | The Panthers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 12:45 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +7% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 11:18 | Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Panthers (Cam Newton), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 0 flags in 1017 snaps before, position avg 1 per 711 | +4% ARI | ARI: Turnover on downs |
| 5 | Q1 9:58 | The Cardinals were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 71% expected | +6% CAR | ARI: Turnover |
| 6 | Q1 6:25 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +3% ARI | ARI: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 9:45 | Z. Gonzalez made 48-yard field goalKicks · 76% expected for him, 20 of 29 from 45+ before | +4% CAR | CAR: Turnover |
| 8 | Q2 0:04 | Z. Gonzalez made 49-yard field goalKicks · 75% expected for him, 21 of 30 from 45+ before | +5% CAR | CAR: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Kyler Murray (ARI QB), out, replaced by c.mccoy · 5.5 pts
- J.J. Watt (ARI DE), out (IR) · 1.3 pts
- DeAndre Hopkins (ARI WR), out · 1.2 pts
- Justin Pugh (ARI G), out · 0.4 pts
- Maxx Williams (ARI TE), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Max Garcia (ARI C), out · 0.2 pts
- Chase Edmonds (ARI RB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Aaron Brewer (ARI LS), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
- Jaycee Horn (CAR CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Cameron Erving (CAR T), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Matt Paradis (CAR C), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- John Miller (CAR G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Sam Darnold (CAR QB), out (IR), replaced by p.walker · 0.2 pts
- Joseph Charlton (CAR P), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 100% · Cardinals 0%
- Final margin
- Panthers by 24
- Luck in points
- 7.0 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Panthers by 17.0
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 53% · Cardinals 47% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 10 2021 games ·
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