Week 6 2021 · October 17, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Vikings at Panthers, Week 6 2021: who deserved to win?
The Vikings beat the Panthers 34–28, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Vikings win 8 of 10. The Panthers had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 44 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Vikings were 57% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 0:06 left): G. Joseph missed 47-yard field goal, worth 38 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final (OT)
| 34 | |
| 28 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +17 Vikings about even · −17 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Vikings win 8, Panthers win 2.
- 1 MIN 58 CAR 23
- 2 MIN 43 CAR 17
- 3 MIN 34 CAR 13
- 4 MIN 27 CAR 10
- 5 MIN 40 CAR 27
- 6 MIN 33 CAR 23
- 7 MIN 35 CAR 29
- 8 MIN 37 CAR 34
- 9 MIN 33 CAR 36
- 10 MIN 23 CAR 38
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Vikings win 83% of them, Panthers 17%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Vikings by 6.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Vikings by 17+ | 44.6% |
| Vikings by 9–16 | 18.8% |
| Vikings by 1–8 | 18.7% |
| Level after regulation | 1.4% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 9.3% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 4.7% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 2.4% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- G. Joseph, 25 yds made · 98% expected
- G. Joseph, 25 yds made · 98% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 47 yds made · 73% expected
- G. Joseph, 38 yds made · 90% expected
- G. Joseph, 50 yds missed · 72% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 23 yds made · 98% expected
- G. Joseph, 47 yds missed · 76% expected
Penalties: Vikings 11 for 98 yards, Panthers 6 for 28 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 10:41 | False Start on the Panthers (Chuba Hubbard), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% MIN +0.6 pts |
| Q1 0:22 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings (Kris Boyd), 10 yards | 0% CAR +0.7 pts |
| Q2 11:13 | Defensive Too Many Men on Field on the Panthers, 2 yards · pre-snap | +1% MIN +0.3 pts |
| Q2 11:05 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers (Derrick Brown), 1 yard | 0% MIN +0.1 pts |
| Q2 10:42 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings (Kris Boyd), 10 yards | +3% CAR +0.7 pts |
| Q2 9:31 | False Start on the Vikings, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CAR +0.4 pts |
| Q2 2:00 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Vikings (Xavier Woods), 15 yards | +3% CAR +0.8 pts |
| Q2 1:02 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +7% MIN +1.1 pts |
| Q2 1:02 | Delay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% MIN +0.6 pts |
| Q2 0:23 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings, 10 yards | +1% CAR +0.2 pts |
| Q3 14:55 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings, 10 yards | +2% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q3 11:41 | Defensive Holding on the Vikings (Mackensie Alexander), 5 yards | +6% CAR +2.5 pts |
| Q3 10:46 | Delay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% MIN +0.6 pts |
| Q3 9:57 | Defensive Holding on the Vikings (Bashaud Breeland), 5 yards | +7% CAR +1.5 pts |
| Q4 14:52 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings, 8 yards, wiping out the play | +5% CAR +2.1 pts |
| Q4 9:05 | Face Mask on the Vikings (Dalvin Tomlinson), 15 yards, wiping out the play | +3% CAR +2.7 pts |
| Q4 2:18 | Delay of Game on the Vikings, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CAR +0.5 pts |
Vikings penalties, every game · Panthers penalties, every game · All teams, 2021
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 73%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 9:20 | The Vikings fumbled and the Panthers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +8% CAR | MIN: Field goal |
| 2 | Q2 1:02 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment callsDelay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +10% MIN | MIN: End of half |
| 3 | Q3 6:56 | Blocked punt by the PanthersSpecial teams | +20% CAR | CAR: Opp touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 2:30 | The Vikings converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +11% MIN | MIN: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q4 0:51 | The Panthers converted 4th & 63rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +13% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q4 0:42 | The Panthers’ two-point try was good3rd & 4th downs · 47% expected | +19% CAR | CAR: End of game |
| 7 | Q4 0:06 | G. Joseph missed 47-yard field goalKicks · 76% expected for him, 5 of 7 from 45+ before | +38% CAR | MIN: Touchdown |
| 8 | QOT 8:29 | The Vikings converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 53% expected | +16% MIN | MIN: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jaycee Horn (CAR CB), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Christian McCaffrey (CAR RB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Shaq Thompson (CAR LB), out · 0.4 pts
- Juston Burris (CAR SS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Juston Burris (CAR S), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Pat Elflein (CAR G), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Joseph Charlton (CAR P), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Vikings 100% · Panthers 0%
- Final margin
- Vikings by 6
- Luck in points
- 12.6 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Vikings by 18.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Vikings 83% · Panthers 17% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
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