Week 13 2024 · December 1, 2024
Buccaneers at Panthers, Week 13 2024: who deserved to win?
The Buccaneers beat the Panthers 26–23 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10. The Panthers had the bounces: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 8 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Buccaneers were 68% favorites. The game turned on a luck play (Q4, 0:03 left): C. McLaughlin made 51-yard field goal, worth 16 points of win probability to the Buccaneers. The biggest single swing (QOT, 5:54 left): the Panthers converted 3rd & 5.
Final (OT)
| 26 | |
| 23 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +22 Buccaneers about even · −22 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Buccaneers win 8, Panthers win 2.
- 1 TB 51 CAR 19
- 2 TB 44 CAR 20
- 3 TB 44 CAR 24
- 4 TB 47 CAR 32
- 5 TB 43 CAR 31
- 6 TB 44 CAR 35
- 7 TB 28 CAR 23
- 8 TB 23 CAR 21
- 9 TB 38 CAR 41
- 10 TB 20 CAR 37
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Buccaneers win 78% of them, Panthers 22%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Buccaneers by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 36.4% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 19.6% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 21.3% |
| Level after regulation | 1.6% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 11.2% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 6.2% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 3.9% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. Pineiro, 47 yds made · 81% expected
- E. Pineiro, 38 yds missed · 90% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 27 yds made · 98% expected
- E. Pineiro, 45 yds missed · 84% expected
- E. Pineiro, 27 yds made · 98% expected
- E. Pineiro, 22 yds made · 99% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 26 yds made · 98% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 51 yds made · 71% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 55 yds missed · 65% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 30 yds made · 96% expected
Penalties: Buccaneers 7 for 54 yards, Panthers 7 for 62 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 5:17 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (Michael Jackson), 3 yards | +5% TB +2.4 pts |
| Q2 11:39 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards | +3% CAR +1.2 pts |
| Q2 9:42 | Low Block on the Buccaneers (Antoine Winfield Jr.), 14 yards | +6% CAR +2.4 pts |
| Q2 9:20 | False Start on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% TB +0.7 pts |
| Q2 6:26 | False Start on the Buccaneers (Jalen McMillan), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CAR +0.3 pts |
| Q2 3:46 | False Start on the Buccaneers (Sterling Shepard), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CAR +0.5 pts |
| Q2 2:18 | Roughing the Passer on the Buccaneers (YaYa Diaby), 15 yards | +6% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q2 1:55 | False Start on the Panthers (David Moore), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% TB +0.7 pts |
| Q2 1:41 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (Jaycee Horn), 14 yards | +4% TB +0.8 pts |
| Q2 0:05 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers, 15 yards | +5% TB +1.4 pts |
| Q3 13:43 | False Start on the Buccaneers (Cade Otton), 5 yards · pre-snap | +4% CAR +0.8 pts |
| Q3 11:15 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Panthers, 5 yards | +4% TB +0.9 pts |
| Q4 3:05 | Kickoff Short of Landing Zone on the Buccaneers, 0 yards · pre-snap | 0% CAR 0.0 pts |
| QOT 10:00 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers (Caleb Farley), 15 yards | 0% TB +1.3 pts |
Buccaneers penalties, every game · Panthers penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 83%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 13:28 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 25% expected | +15% CAR | CAR: Missed field goal |
| 2 | Q2 11:43 | E. Pineiro missed 38-yard field goalKicks · 90% expected for him | +10% TB | CAR: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 1:45 | E. Pineiro missed 45-yard field goalKicks · 84% expected for him, 28 of 33 from 45+ before | +10% TB | CAR: Field goal |
| 4 | Q3 4:19 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 77% expectedThe Buccaneers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +21% CAR | TB: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q4 0:03 | The game turned hereC. McLaughlin made 51-yard field goalKicks · 71% expected for him, 46 of 62 from 45+ before | +16% TB | TB: Missed field goal |
| 6 | QOT 7:17 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 143rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +11% TB | TB: Missed field goal |
| 7 | QOT 6:36 | C. McLaughlin missed 55-yard field goalKicks · 65% expected for him, 47 of 63 from 45+ before | +22% CAR | TB: Field goal |
| 8 | QOT 5:54 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +26% CAR | CAR: Turnover |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Ja'Tavion Sanders (CAR TE), out · 0.6 pts
- Jalen Coker (CAR WR), out · 0.4 pts
- Austin Corbett (CAR C), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Nick Scott (CAR SS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Chris Godwin (TB WR), out (IR) · 1.0 pts
- Jordan Whitehead (TB SS), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Tykee Smith (TB SS), out · 0.3 pts
- Joe Tryon-Shoyinka (TB LB), out · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Buccaneers 21% · Panthers 79%
- Final margin
- Buccaneers by 3
- Luck in points
- 8.4 for the Buccaneers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Panthers by 5.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Buccaneers 78% · Panthers 22% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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