Week 17 2024 · December 29, 2024
Panthers at Buccaneers, Week 17 2024: who deserved to win?
The Buccaneers beat the Panthers 48–14, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Buccaneers win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the Buccaneers were 76% favorites.
Final
| 14 | |
| 48 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index 0 Buccaneers about even · 0 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 0, Buccaneers win 10.
- 1 CAR 13 TB 21
- 2 CAR 17 TB 31
- 3 CAR 10 TB 28
- 4 CAR 13 TB 34
- 5 CAR 7 TB 31
- 6 CAR 14 TB 40
- 7 CAR 14 TB 43
- 8 CAR 7 TB 38
- 9 CAR 9 TB 45
- 10 CAR 3 TB 46
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 0% of them, Buccaneers 100%. The line is what actually happened: Buccaneers by 34.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 0.0% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 0.1% |
| Level after regulation | 0.1% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 0.7% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 3.8% |
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 95.3% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. McLaughlin, 23 yds made · 99% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 34 yds made · 94% expected
- E. Pineiro, 53 yds missed · 69% expected
Penalties: Panthers 4 for 30 yards, Buccaneers 5 for 40 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q2 12:01 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Panthers (A'Shawn Robinson), 5 yards | +2% TB +1.4 pts |
| Q2 6:08 | Roughing the Passer on the Panthers (A'Shawn Robinson), 15 yards, wiping out the play | +2% TB +3.5 pts |
| Q2 5:45 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards | 0% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q2 1:01 | Roughing the Passer on the Buccaneers (Vita Vea), 15 yards | +2% CAR +1.6 pts |
| Q2 0:46 | False Start on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CAR +0.2 pts |
| Q2 0:15 | Defensive Offside on the Buccaneers (Calijah Kancey), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CAR +0.1 pts |
| Q3 8:32 | Offensive Offside on the Buccaneers (Rakim Jarrett), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CAR +0.8 pts |
| Q3 3:43 | False Start on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% TB +0.3 pts |
| Q4 13:42 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Jadeveon Clowney), 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | 0% CAR +0.1 pts |
Panthers penalties, every game · Buccaneers penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Buccaneers’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 4:12 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 41% expected | +8% TB | TB: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 2:00 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 50% expected | +7% CAR | TB: Field goal |
| 3 | Q1 0:25 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +4% TB | CAR: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 10:41 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +5% CAR | TB: Field goal |
| 5 | Q2 10:35 | C. McLaughlin made 34-yard field goalKicks · 94% expected for him | +3% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 10:20 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +2% TB | CAR: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 0:46 | R. Miller dropped a catchable passDrops · 2 drops on 13 catchable balls before thisFalse Start on the Buccaneers, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +4% CAR | TB: Punt |
| 8 | Q2 0:03 | E. Pineiro missed 53-yard field goalKicks · 69% expected for him, 28 of 34 from 45+ before | +2% TB | CAR: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Cade Otton (TB TE), out · 1.1 pts
- Antoine Winfield Jr. (TB FS), out · 0.9 pts
- Sterling Shepard (TB WR), out · 0.3 pts
- Christian Izien (TB SS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Taylor Moton (CAR T), out · 1.0 pts
- Jaycee Horn (CAR CB), out · 0.8 pts
- Josey Jewell (CAR LB), out · 0.4 pts
- Jordan Fuller (CAR FS), out · 0.4 pts
- Chuba Hubbard (CAR RB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Trevin Wallace (CAR LB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Chau Smith-Wade (CAR CB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 0% · Buccaneers 100%
- Final margin
- Buccaneers by 34
- Luck in points
- 6.7 for the Buccaneers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Buccaneers by 27.3
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 0% · Buccaneers 100% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 17 2024 games ·
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