Week 5 2024 · October 6, 2024
Panthers at Bears, Week 5 2024: who deserved to win?
The Bears beat the Panthers 36–10, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Bears win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the Bears were 62% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 9:40 left): the Panthers converted 4th & 1, worth 13 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
| 10 | |
| 36 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +4 Bears about even · −4 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 0, Bears win 10.
- 1 CAR 17 CHI 20
- 2 CAR 17 CHI 24
- 3 CAR 6 CHI 16
- 4 CAR 16 CHI 29
- 5 CAR 3 CHI 19
- 6 CAR 16 CHI 34
- 7 CAR 16 CHI 37
- 8 CAR 0 CHI 23
- 9 CAR 12 CHI 40
- 10 CAR 7 CHI 41
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 4% of them, Bears 96%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Bears by 26.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.1% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 0.9% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 2.8% |
| Level after regulation | 1.0% |
| Bears by 1–8 | 7.2% |
| Bears by 9–16 | 17.4% |
| Bears by 17+ | 70.5% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. Pineiro, 45 yds missed · 84% expected
- C. Santos, 33 yds made · 95% expected
- E. Pineiro, 27 yds made · 98% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
Penalties: Panthers 4 for 18 yards, Bears 5 for 46 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 3:59 | Offensive Too Many Men on Field on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CHI +0.5 pts |
| Q2 11:30 | Illegal Shift on the Bears, 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +3% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q2 11:27 | Defensive Too Many Men on Field on the Panthers, 3 yards · pre-snap | +1% CHI +0.5 pts |
| Q3 14:25 | Offensive Holding on the Bears (D'Andre Swift), 9 yards, wiping out the play | +1% CAR +2.8 pts |
| Q3 11:34 | False Start on the Panthers (Ja'Tavion Sanders), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CHI +0.6 pts |
| Q3 6:53 | Clipping on the Bears, 14 yards, wiping out the play | +1% CAR +2.8 pts |
| Q3 3:50 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Bears (Tyrique Stevenson), 13 yards | 0% CAR +1.7 pts |
| Q3 2:04 | False Start on the Bears, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CAR +0.7 pts |
| Q4 4:30 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (Jaycee Horn), 5 yards | 0% CHI +2.4 pts |
Panthers penalties, every game · Bears penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Bears’ chance of winning
As low as 38% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:35 | The Bears were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +4% CAR | CHI: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 10:16 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 57% expected | +4% CHI | CAR: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 9:40 | The Panthers converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 70% expected | +13% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 11:55 | The Bears converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +5% CHI | CHI: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 7:34 | The Bears converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +6% CHI | CHI: Turnover on downs |
| 6 | Q2 4:23 | The Bears were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 75% expected | +6% CAR | CHI: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q2 2:59 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 21% expectedThe Panthers fumbled and the Bears recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +9% CHI | CAR: Turnover on downs |
| 8 | Q2 1:04 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 48% expectedJ. Sanders dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 6 catchable balls before this | +4% CHI | CAR: Turnover on downs |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Patrick Scales (CHI LS), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
- Adam Thielen (CAR WR), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Derrick Brown (CAR DT), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Jordan Fuller (CAR FS), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Shaq Thompson (CAR LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Josey Jewell (CAR LB), out · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 0% · Bears 100%
- Final margin
- Bears by 26
- Luck in points
- 2.4 for the Bears
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bears by 23.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 4% · Bears 96% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 5 2024 games ·
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