Week 8 2019 · October 27, 2019
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Panthers at 49ers, Week 8 2019: who deserved to win?
The 49ers beat the Panthers 51–13, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the 49ers win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the 49ers were 63% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 1:21 left): Offensive Pass Interference on the 49ers (Deebo Samuel), 10 yards, wiping out the play, worth 9 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
| 13 | |
| 51 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +2 49ers about even · −2 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 0, 49ers win 10.
- 1 CAR 19 SF 22
- 2 CAR 35 SF 44
- 3 CAR 30 SF 43
- 4 CAR 9 SF 26
- 5 CAR 23 SF 43
- 6 CAR 12 SF 36
- 7 CAR 14 SF 41
- 8 CAR 16 SF 48
- 9 CAR 6 SF 43
- 10 CAR 10 SF 56
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 2% of them, 49ers 98%. The line is what actually happened: 49ers by 38.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.1% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 0.3% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 1.3% |
| Level after regulation | 0.3% |
| 49ers by 1–8 | 4.0% |
| 49ers by 9–16 | 10.9% |
| 49ers by 17+ | 83.2% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Slye, 41 yds made · 81% expected
- R. Gould, 20 yds made · 98% expected
Penalties: Panthers 9 for 70 yards, 49ers 4 for 31 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 2:32 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers (Tre Boston), 15 yards | +4% SF +1.8 pts |
| Q1 1:21 | Offensive Pass Interference on the 49ers (Deebo Samuel), 10 yards, wiping out the play | +9% CAR +2.6 pts |
| Q2 14:20 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Panthers, 5 yards, wiping out the play | +4% SF +1.6 pts |
| Q2 12:43 | Lowering the Head to Initiate Contact on the 49ers (Mitch Wishnowsky), 15 yards | +2% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q2 12:37 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +9% SF +4.7 pts |
| Q2 10:37 | Delay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% SF +0.3 pts |
| Q2 8:57 | False Start on the 49ers (Jimmy Garoppolo), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CAR +0.5 pts |
| Q2 2:04 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Panthers (Dontari Poe), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% SF +0.6 pts |
| Q3 11:15 | Defensive Offside on the 49ers (Ronald Blair), 1 yard · pre-snap | 0% CAR 0.0 pts |
| Q3 7:11 | Illegal Block Above the Waist on the Panthers (D.J. Moore), 10 yards | +1% SF +1.0 pts |
| Q3 0:36 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (Eric Reid), 5 yards | 0% SF +2.6 pts |
| Q4 12:52 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers (Alex Armah), 10 yards | 0% SF +1.0 pts |
| Q4 7:14 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Panthers, 5 yards | 0% SF +0.6 pts |
Panthers penalties, every game · 49ers penalties, every game · All teams, 2019
When it happened
49ers’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:46 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 44% expected | +5% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 7:57 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 47% expected | +4% SF | CAR: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 5:10 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +4% SF | CAR: Field goal |
| 4 | Q1 2:32 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers (Tre Boston), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 1 flag in 441 snaps before, position avg 1 per 465 | +4% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q1 1:21 | Offensive Pass Interference on the 49ers (Deebo Samuel), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 2 flags in 209 snaps before, position avg 1 per 331 | +9% CAR | CAR: Turnover |
| 6 | Q2 14:20 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Panthers, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +4% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q2 12:37 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +9% SF | SF: Punt |
| 8 | Q2 6:32 | The Panthers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +3% CAR | CAR: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Joe Staley (SF T), out · 1.1 pts
- Mike McGlinchey (SF T), out · 0.9 pts
- Ahkello Witherspoon (SF CB), out · 0.5 pts
- Marquise Goodwin (SF WR), out · 0.3 pts
- Kawann Short (CAR DE), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Greg Little (CAR T), out · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 0% · 49ers 100%
- Final margin
- 49ers by 38
- Luck in points
- 7.9 for the 49ers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- 49ers by 30.1
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 2% · 49ers 98% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2019 games ·
Panthers ·
49ers
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