Week 3 2022 · September 25, 2022
Lions at Vikings, Week 3 2022: who deserved to win?
The Vikings beat the Lions 28–24 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10. The Lions had the bounces: drops alone were worth 25 points of win probability to the Lions.
Before kickoff the Vikings were 68% favorites. The game turned on a luck play (Q4, 1:14 left): A. Seibert missed 54-yard field goal, worth 24 points of win probability to the Vikings. The biggest single swing (Q4, 0:17 left): the Lions threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was picked.
Final
| 24 | |
| 28 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +23 Vikings about even · −23 Lions
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Lions win 2, Vikings win 8.
- 1 DET 29 MIN 15
- 2 DET 16 MIN 12
- 3 DET 17 MIN 19
- 4 DET 28 MIN 32
- 5 DET 19 MIN 27
- 6 DET 13 MIN 23
- 7 DET 13 MIN 26
- 8 DET 17 MIN 34
- 9 DET 9 MIN 30
- 10 DET 7 MIN 37
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Lions win 23% of them, Vikings 77%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Vikings by 4.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Lions by 17+ | 2.9% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 7.0% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 12.7% |
| Level after regulation | 1.9% |
| Vikings by 1–8 | 24.7% |
| Vikings by 9–16 | 20.0% |
| Vikings by 17+ | 30.9% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- A. Seibert, 48 yds missed · 74% expected
- G. Joseph, 56 yds missed · 65% expected
- A. Seibert, 40 yds made · 88% expected
- G. Joseph, 56 yds missed · 64% expected
- A. Seibert, 54 yds missed · 64% expected
Penalties: Lions 7 for 59 yards, Vikings 3 for 15 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q2 13:11 | Illegal Contact on the Lions (Amani Oruwariye), 5 yards | +1% MIN +0.8 pts |
| Q2 8:58 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Lions (Mike Hughes), 3 yards | +4% MIN +2.8 pts |
| Q2 0:22 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Lions (Amani Oruwariye), 21 yards | +4% MIN +0.5 pts |
| Q3 2:14 | Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Lions (Jamaal Williams), 15 yards | +5% MIN +1.0 pts |
| Q4 15:00 | Delay of Game on the Lions, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% MIN +0.3 pts |
| Q4 12:15 | Defensive Holding on the Vikings (Eric Kendricks), 5 yards | +2% DET +1.1 pts |
| Q4 9:43 | Defensive Holding on the Lions (Amani Oruwariye), 5 yards | +1% MIN +0.3 pts |
| Q4 9:38 | Illegal Contact on the Lions (Amani Oruwariye), 5 yards | +3% MIN +0.4 pts |
| Q4 6:39 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Vikings (Za'Darius Smith), 5 yards | +4% DET +0.5 pts |
| Q4 2:28 | Defensive Holding on the Vikings (Camryn Bynum), 5 yards | +5% DET +0.6 pts |
Lions penalties, every game · Vikings penalties, every game · All teams, 2022
When it happened
Vikings’ chance of winning
As low as 9% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 7:12 | The Lions converted 4th & 53rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +17% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 5:04 | The Lions were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 72% expected | +13% MIN | DET: Punt |
| 3 | Q3 10:41 | The Lions converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 58% expected | +14% DET | DET: Field goal |
| 4 | Q4 3:35 | The Lions were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 72% expected | +15% MIN | DET: Missed field goal |
| 5 | Q4 1:14 | The game turned hereA. Seibert missed 54-yard field goalKicks · 64% expected for him, 10 of 19 from 45+ before | +24% MIN | DET: Turnover |
| 6 | Q4 1:10 | K. Osborn dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 8 catchable balls before this | +24% DET | MIN: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 0:23 | The Lions got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · 49% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +13% DET | DET: Turnover |
| 8 | Q4 0:17 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 26% expectedThe Lions threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 49% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +32% MIN | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Harrison Smith (MIN SS), out · 0.7 pts
- Jonah Jackson (DET G), out · 0.4 pts
- Ifeatu Melifonwu (DET CB), out · 0.4 pts
- Halapoulivaati Vaitai (DET G), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Lions 45% · Vikings 55%
- Final margin
- Vikings by 4
- Luck in points
- 3.3 for the Vikings
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Vikings by 0.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Lions 23% · Vikings 77% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 3 2022 games ·
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