Week 1 2025 · September 7, 2025
Cardinals at Saints, Week 1 2025: who deserved to win?
The Cardinals beat the Saints 20–13 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 6 of 10.
Before kickoff the Cardinals were 67% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 2:11 left): Illegal Contact on the Cardinals (Max Melton), 5 yards, wiping out the play, worth 14 points of win probability to the Saints.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +40 Cardinals lucky · −40 Saints
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Cardinals win 6, Saints win 4.
- 1 ARI 23 NO 0
- 2 ARI 24 NO 9
- 3 ARI 20 NO 8
- 4 ARI 19 NO 10
- 5 ARI 12 NO 7
- 6 ARI 17 NO 15
- 7 ARI 10 NO 12
- 8 ARI 20 NO 26
- 9 ARI 10 NO 20
- 10 ARI 7 NO 27
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Cardinals win 60% of them, Saints 40%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Cardinals by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Cardinals by 17+ | 11.9% |
| Cardinals by 9–16 | 18.3% |
| Cardinals by 1–8 | 29.0% |
| Level after regulation | 2.5% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 20.2% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 12.6% |
| Saints by 17+ | 5.5% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. Ryland, 42 yds made · 85% expected
- B. Grupe, 36 yds made · 93% expected
- C. Ryland, 50 yds made · 71% expected
- B. Grupe, 37 yds missed · 92% expected
- C. Ryland, 46 yds blocked · 78% expected
- B. Grupe, 28 yds made · 97% expected
Penalties: Cardinals 9 for 54 yards, Saints 13 for 89 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 8:11 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Saints (Kool-Aid McKinstry), 13 yards | +10% ARI +2.8 pts |
| Q1 8:05 | False Start on the Cardinals, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% NO +0.6 pts |
| Q1 5:14 | Delay of Game on the Cardinals, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% NO +0.5 pts |
| Q1 3:39 | Illegal Shift on the Saints (Chris Olave), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% ARI +0.6 pts |
| Q1 2:33 | Offensive Holding on the Saints, 10 yards | +7% ARI +1.3 pts |
| Q1 2:11 | Illegal Contact on the Cardinals (Max Melton), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +14% NO +6.0 pts |
| Q1 0:44 | Illegal Shift on the Saints, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% ARI +0.8 pts |
| Q2 10:56 | Defensive Holding on the Saints (Demario Davis), 2 yards | +2% ARI +0.4 pts |
| Q2 9:07 | Offensive Offside on the Saints, 4 yards · pre-snap | +4% ARI +1.1 pts |
| Q2 4:10 | Face Mask on the Saints (Jonah Williams), 15 yards | +5% ARI +3.5 pts |
| Q2 3:49 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals, 10 yards | +4% NO +1.1 pts |
| Q2 2:00 | Defensive Offside on the Saints (Nathan Shepherd), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% ARI +0.5 pts |
| Q3 15:00 | Offensive Holding on the Saints (Chris Rumph), 10 yards | +1% ARI +1.1 pts |
| Q3 7:35 | False Start on the Saints, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% ARI +0.5 pts |
| Q3 5:10 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Cardinals (Darius Robinson), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% NO +1.3 pts |
| Q3 0:23 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Cardinals (Garrett Williams), 7 yards | +2% NO +1.2 pts |
| Q4 14:38 | False Start on the Saints, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% ARI +0.6 pts |
| Q4 13:51 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals, 3 yards | +1% NO +1.1 pts |
| Q4 9:01 | False Start on the Saints, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% ARI +0.8 pts |
| Q4 5:56 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals, 10 yards | 0% NO +0.9 pts |
| Q4 3:24 | Defensive Holding on the Cardinals (Max Melton), 4 yards | +1% NO +1.0 pts |
| Q4 2:46 | Illegal Formation on the Saints, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% ARI +0.1 pts |
Cardinals penalties, every game · Saints penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Saints’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 69%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 8:11 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Saints (Kool-Aid McKinstry), 13 yardsJudgment calls · 0 flags in 713 snaps before, position avg 1 per 213 | +10% ARI | ARI: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 2:33 | Offensive Holding on the Saints, 10 yardsJudgment calls | +7% ARI | ARI: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 2:11 | Illegal Contact on the Cardinals (Max Melton), 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 0 flags in 777 snaps before, position avg 1 per 213 | +14% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 8:46 | The Saints converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +8% NO | NO: Field goal |
| 5 | Q2 4:46 | The Cardinals converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +6% ARI | ARI: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 2:07 | The Cardinals converted 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 25% expected | +14% ARI | ARI: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 4:03 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 41% expected | +7% ARI | NO: Missed field goal |
| 8 | Q4 0:04 | The Saints were stopped on 4th & 103rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +8% ARI | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Trevor Penning (NO T), out · 0.5 pts
- Chase Young (NO DE), out · 0.5 pts
- Foster Moreau (NO TE), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Taysom Hill (NO TE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Nick Saldiveri (NO G), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Sean Murphy-Bunting (ARI CB), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Christian Jones (ARI T), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Cardinals 66% · Saints 34%
- Final margin
- Cardinals by 7
- Luck in points
- 3.7 for the Cardinals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Cardinals by 3.3
- Replay with same day's form
- Cardinals 60% · Saints 40% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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