Week 1 2025 · September 7, 2025
Lions at Packers, Week 1 2025: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Lions 27–13 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10.
Before kickoff the Packers were 54% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 1:12 left): the Lions were stopped on 3rd & 7, worth 10 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 13 | |
| 27 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +25 Packers about even · −25 Lions
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Lions win 2, Packers win 8.
- 1 DET 20 GB 10
- 2 DET 31 GB 28
- 3 DET 17 GB 19
- 4 DET 16 GB 19
- 5 DET 23 GB 30
- 6 DET 17 GB 27
- 7 DET 16 GB 28
- 8 DET 3 GB 17
- 9 DET 10 GB 28
- 10 DET 14 GB 40
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Lions win 25% of them, Packers 75%, counting the 5% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Lions by 17+ | 2.4% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 5.9% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 14.3% |
| Level after regulation | 4.7% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 27.7% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 22.7% |
| Packers by 17+ | 22.4% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- B. McManus, 34 yds made · 94% expected
- J. Bates, 30 yds made · 97% expected
- J. Bates, 27 yds made · 98% expected
- B. McManus, 38 yds made · 91% expected
Penalties: Lions 7 for 40 yards, Packers 4 for 40 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 15:00 | Offensive Holding on the Packers (Bo Melton), 10 yards | +1% DET +1.0 pts |
| Q1 10:33 | Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Lions (Brian Branch), 15 yards | +5% GB +1.3 pts |
| Q1 7:10 | False Start on the Lions (Craig Reynolds), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% GB +0.5 pts |
| Q1 3:58 | Offensive Holding on the Lions (Isaac TeSlaa), 10 yards | +1% GB +0.9 pts |
| Q1 3:52 | Offensive Offside on the Lions (Jameson Williams), 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +3% GB +1.3 pts |
| Q2 13:41 | Taunting on the Packers (Xavier McKinney), 15 yards | +5% DET +2.3 pts |
| Q3 4:24 | Offensive Holding on the Packers (Javon Bullard), 10 yards | +2% DET +1.2 pts |
| Q3 3:05 | Defensive Holding on the Lions (Rock Ya-Sin), 5 yards | +2% GB +1.2 pts |
| Q4 12:51 | False Start on the Lions (Zach Cunningham), 0 yards · pre-snap | 0% GB 0.0 pts |
| Q4 2:47 | Defensive Offside on the Packers (Micah Parsons), 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | 0% DET +1.6 pts |
| Q4 0:55 | Kickoff Out of Bounds on the Lions (Jake Bates), 0 yards · pre-snap | 0% GB 0.0 pts |
Lions penalties, every game · Packers penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Packers’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:07 | The Packers converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +7% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 11:15 | The Packers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +9% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 10:33 | Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Lions (Brian Branch), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 16 flags in 1937 snaps before, position avg 1 per 244 | +5% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 9:31 | The Packers converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +8% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q1 6:05 | The Packers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +7% GB | GB: Field goal |
| 6 | Q2 13:41 | Taunting on the Packers (Xavier McKinney), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 6 flags in 4645 snaps before, position avg 1 per 467 | +5% DET | DET: Field goal |
| 7 | Q2 2:24 | The Lions converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 61% expected | +6% DET | DET: Turnover |
| 8 | Q2 1:12 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 35% expectedThe Lions threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 50% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +10% GB | DET: End of half |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Christian Watson (GB WR), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Alim McNeill (DET DT), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Levi Onwuzurike (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Malcolm Rodriguez (DET LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Lions 0% · Packers 100%
- Final margin
- Packers by 14
- Luck in points
- 1.3 for the Lions
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 15.3
- Replay with same day's form
- Lions 25% · Packers 75% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 1 2025 games ·
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