Week 11 2022 · November 20, 2022
Panthers at Ravens, Week 11 2022: who deserved to win?
The Ravens beat the Panthers 13–3, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Ravens win 9 of 10. The Panthers had the bounces: judgment calls alone were worth 19 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Ravens were 83% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 10:37 left): the Panthers converted 3rd & 9, worth 16 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
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| 13 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +6 Ravens about even · −6 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 1, Ravens win 9.
- 1 CAR 20 BAL 13
- 2 CAR 27 BAL 30
- 3 CAR 24 BAL 30
- 4 CAR 17 BAL 26
- 5 CAR 16 BAL 28
- 6 CAR 22 BAL 37
- 7 CAR 0 BAL 19
- 8 CAR 19 BAL 41
- 9 CAR 3 BAL 29
- 10 CAR 9 BAL 40
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 6% of them, Ravens 94%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Ravens by 10.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.3% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 1.4% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 4.2% |
| Level after regulation | 0.8% |
| Ravens by 1–8 | 14.2% |
| Ravens by 9–16 | 19.0% |
| Ravens by 17+ | 60.1% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Tucker, 32 yds made · 97% expected
- E. Pineiro, 32 yds made · 95% expected
- J. Tucker, 37 yds made · 92% expected
Penalties: Panthers 9 for 66 yards, Ravens 10 for 93 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 14:11 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Ravens, 5 yards | +2% CAR +0.5 pts |
| Q1 7:42 | Running Into the Kicker on the Ravens, 5 yards | 0% BAL +0.3 pts |
| Q1 5:31 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards | +3% BAL +0.9 pts |
| Q2 12:46 | Face Mask on the Panthers, 15 yards | +1% BAL +1.4 pts |
| Q2 5:08 | Chop Block on the Panthers (Chuba Hubbard), 15 yards | +4% BAL +1.2 pts |
| Q2 4:13 | False Start on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BAL +0.3 pts |
| Q3 13:55 | Offensive Holding on the Ravens, 6 yards | +1% CAR +0.5 pts |
| Q3 9:39 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Ravens (Chuck Clark), 12 yards | +7% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q3 4:34 | Face Mask on the Ravens, 15 yards, wiping out the play | +11% CAR +3.0 pts |
| Q3 2:43 | Face Mask on the Ravens (Chuck Clark), 15 yards | +5% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q3 1:33 | False Start on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% BAL +0.7 pts |
| Q3 0:45 | Delay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% BAL +0.5 pts |
| Q4 9:19 | Delay of Game on the Ravens, 5 yards · pre-snap | +4% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q4 7:45 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Brian Burns), 1 yard · pre-snap | 0% BAL +0.1 pts |
| Q4 7:16 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Ravens, 15 yards | +2% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q4 5:26 | Offensive Holding on the Ravens (James Proche), 10 yards | 0% CAR +0.8 pts |
| Q4 4:25 | Defensive Offside on the Ravens (Jason Pierre-Paul), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CAR +0.4 pts |
| Q4 2:42 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Panthers (Brian Burns), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BAL +0.3 pts |
| Q4 1:45 | False Start on the Panthers (Tommy Tremble), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BAL +0.4 pts |
Panthers penalties, every game · Ravens penalties, every game · All teams, 2022
When it happened
Ravens’ chance of winning
As low as 45% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 11:05 | The Ravens converted 3rd & 133rd & 4th downs · 22% expected | +9% BAL | BAL: Turnover |
| 2 | Q3 10:40 | D. Moore dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 49 catchable balls before this | +7% BAL | CAR: Field goal |
| 3 | Q3 10:37 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +16% CAR | CAR: Field goal |
| 4 | Q3 9:39 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Ravens (Chuck Clark), 12 yardsJudgment calls · 13 flags in 4026 snaps before, position avg 1 per 473 | +7% CAR | CAR: Field goal |
| 5 | Q3 8:57 | T. Marshall dropped a catchable passDrops · 2 drops on 22 catchable balls before this | +7% BAL | CAR: Field goal |
| 6 | Q3 5:42 | The Ravens converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +8% BAL | BAL: Punt |
| 7 | Q3 4:34 | Face Mask on the Ravens, 15 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +11% CAR | CAR: Punt |
| 8 | Q3 4:21 | The Ravens were stopped on 3rd & 193rd & 4th downs · 17% expected | +7% CAR | BAL: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Marcus Williams (BAL FS), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Rashod Bateman (BAL WR), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Josh Bynes (BAL LB), out · 0.2 pts
- Donte Jackson (CAR CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Pat Elflein (CAR C), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Myles Hartsfield (CAR FS), out · 0.4 pts
- Juston Burris (CAR SS), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 1% · Ravens 99%
- Final margin
- Ravens by 10
- Luck in points
- 1.9 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Ravens by 11.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 6% · Ravens 94% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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