Week 3 2023 · September 21, 2023
Giants at 49ers, Week 3 2023: who deserved to win?
The 49ers beat the Giants 30–12, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the 49ers win 9 of 10.
Before kickoff the 49ers were 78% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 11:32 left): the 49ers converted 3rd & 8, worth 13 points of win probability to the 49ers.
Final
| 12 | |
| 30 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +9 49ers about even · −9 Giants
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Giants win 1, 49ers win 9.
- 1 NYG 30 SF 24
- 2 NYG 19 SF 21
- 3 NYG 21 SF 27
- 4 NYG 0 SF 7
- 5 NYG 13 SF 23
- 6 NYG 13 SF 26
- 7 NYG 3 SF 20
- 8 NYG 21 SF 41
- 9 NYG 3 SF 27
- 10 NYG 3 SF 33
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Giants win 9% of them, 49ers 91%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: 49ers by 18.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Giants by 17+ | 0.7% |
| Giants by 9–16 | 1.6% |
| Giants by 1–8 | 6.7% |
| Level after regulation | 1.7% |
| 49ers by 1–8 | 19.3% |
| 49ers by 9–16 | 23.3% |
| 49ers by 17+ | 46.8% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Moody, 28 yds made · 97% expected
- G. Gano, 44 yds made · 80% expected
- G. Gano, 57 yds made · 61% expected
- J. Moody, 21 yds made · 99% expected
- J. Moody, 36 yds made · 91% expected
Penalties: Giants 6 for 37 yards, 49ers 6 for 71 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q2 14:09 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the 49ers, 5 yards, wiping out the play | +4% NYG +1.4 pts |
| Q2 2:00 | Offensive Holding on the 49ers, 10 yards | +1% NYG +0.9 pts |
| Q2 1:51 | Roughing the Passer on the Giants (Leonard Williams), 5 yards | +2% SF +0.7 pts |
| Q3 12:24 | Offensive Holding on the 49ers, 4 yards | 0% NYG +0.4 pts |
| Q3 10:56 | Fair Catch Interference on the 49ers (Shemar Jean-Charles), 15 yards | 0% NYG +1.5 pts |
| Q3 10:11 | Defensive Pass Interference on the 49ers (Deommodore Lenoir), 22 yards | +3% NYG +1.4 pts |
| Q3 7:42 | Defensive Holding on the Giants (Darnay Holmes), 5 yards | +3% SF +0.9 pts |
| Q3 5:02 | Illegal Contact on the Giants (Kayvon Thibodeaux), 5 yards | +3% SF +1.5 pts |
| Q3 3:23 | False Start on the Giants (Daniel Bellinger), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% SF +0.6 pts |
| Q4 15:00 | Defensive Holding on the Giants (Tre Hawkins), 5 yards | 0% SF +0.3 pts |
| Q4 12:47 | Face Mask on the Giants, 12 yards, wiping out the play | +4% SF +2.1 pts |
| Q4 5:53 | Unnecessary Roughness on the 49ers (Dre Greenlaw), 15 yards | 0% NYG +1.2 pts |
Giants penalties, every game · 49ers penalties, every game · All teams, 2023
When it happened
49ers’ chance of winning
As low as 48% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 14:18 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +6% SF | SF: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 11:32 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +13% SF | SF: Field goal |
| 3 | Q1 8:05 | The Giants converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 45% expected | +5% NYG | NYG: Field goal |
| 4 | Q1 6:27 | The Giants converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +5% NYG | NYG: Field goal |
| 5 | Q1 4:44 | G. Brightwell dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 9 catchable balls before this | +5% SF | NYG: Field goal |
| 6 | Q2 13:48 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 153rd & 4th downs · 21% expected | +10% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q2 10:17 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 133rd & 4th downs · 24% expected | +9% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q2 6:59 | The Giants were stopped on 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 60% expected | +5% SF | NYG: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Brandon Aiyuk (SF WR), out · 1.5 pts
- Andrew Thomas (NYG T), out · 0.9 pts
- Saquon Barkley (NYG RB), out · 0.6 pts
- Jarrad Davis (NYG LB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Ben Bredeson (NYG G), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Giants 1% · 49ers 99%
- Final margin
- 49ers by 18
- Luck in points
- 4.8 for the 49ers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- 49ers by 13.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Giants 9% · 49ers 91% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 3 2023 games ·
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