Week 12 2024 · November 25, 2024
Ravens at Chargers, Week 12 2024: who deserved to win?
The Ravens beat the Chargers 30–23, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Ravens win 9 of 10.
Before kickoff the Ravens were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 5:43 left): the Chargers converted 3rd & 8, worth 12 points of win probability to the Chargers.
Final
| 30 | |
| 23 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +8 Ravens about even · −8 Chargers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Ravens win 9, Chargers win 1.
- 1 BAL 45 LAC 17
- 2 BAL 37 LAC 13
- 3 BAL 31 LAC 11
- 4 BAL 29 LAC 13
- 5 BAL 27 LAC 14
- 6 BAL 21 LAC 10
- 7 BAL 23 LAC 16
- 8 BAL 24 LAC 19
- 9 BAL 30 LAC 27
- 10 BAL 21 LAC 27
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Ravens win 92% of them, Chargers 8%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Ravens by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Ravens by 17+ | 44.3% |
| Ravens by 9–16 | 27.6% |
| Ravens by 1–8 | 19.0% |
| Level after regulation | 1.4% |
| Chargers by 1–8 | 5.8% |
| Chargers by 9–16 | 1.5% |
| Chargers by 17+ | 0.4% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. Dicker, 42 yds made · 88% expected
- C. Dicker, 52 yds made · 76% expected
- J. Tucker, 45 yds made · 84% expected
- C. Dicker, 52 yds made · 76% expected
Penalties: Ravens 9 for 102 yards, Chargers 7 for 62 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 8:30 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Ravens (Patrick Ricard), 15 yards, wiping out the play | +7% LAC +2.7 pts |
| Q1 5:02 | Offensive Holding on the Chargers, 10 yards | +3% BAL +1.6 pts |
| Q1 3:03 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Ravens (Nate Wiggins), 15 yards | +4% LAC +1.2 pts |
| Q1 3:03 | False Start on the Chargers (Tuli Tuipulotu), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% BAL +0.7 pts |
| Q2 8:00 | Illegal Formation on the Ravens, 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +5% LAC +1.9 pts |
| Q2 5:09 | Offensive Holding on the Chargers, 10 yards | +7% BAL +2.0 pts |
| Q2 0:37 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Chargers (Kristian Fulton), 12 yards | +4% BAL +0.7 pts |
| Q3 6:54 | Offensive Holding on the Chargers, 10 yards | +7% BAL +1.5 pts |
| Q3 1:56 | Offensive Holding on the Ravens, 10 yards | +3% LAC +0.9 pts |
| Q4 7:16 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Ravens (Marlon Humphrey), 15 yards | +2% LAC +0.7 pts |
| Q4 3:27 | Offensive Holding on the Ravens, 10 yards | +1% LAC +1.6 pts |
| Q4 3:08 | Defensive Offside on the Ravens (Odafe Oweh), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BAL +0.4 pts |
| Q4 1:55 | Offensive Holding on the Chargers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +1% BAL +2.0 pts |
| Q4 1:29 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Ravens (Marlon Humphrey), 12 yards | 0% LAC +2.1 pts |
| Q4 0:54 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Ravens (Jalyn Armour-Davis), 15 yards | +1% LAC +3.1 pts |
| Q4 0:46 | Delay of Game on the Chargers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BAL 0.0 pts |
Ravens penalties, every game · Chargers penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Chargers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 81%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 0:47 | The Ravens converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 61% expected | +8% BAL | BAL: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q3 11:44 | The Ravens converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +10% BAL | BAL: Field goal |
| 3 | Q3 5:43 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +12% LAC | LAC: Field goal |
| 4 | Q3 4:12 | C. Dicker made 52-yard field goalKicks · 76% expected for him, 26 of 30 from 45+ before | +8% LAC | LAC: Punt |
| 5 | Q3 2:38 | The Ravens converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +11% BAL | BAL: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q4 15:00 | The Ravens converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +9% BAL | BAL: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 12:36 | The Ravens converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 31% expected | +12% BAL | BAL: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 10:56 | The Chargers were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 36% expectedQ. Johnston dropped a catchable passDrops · 2 drops on 69 catchable balls before this | +10% BAL | LAC: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Asante Samuel Jr. (LAC CB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Cam Hart (LAC CB), out · 0.4 pts
- Simi Fehoko (LAC WR), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Denzel Perryman (LAC LB), out · 0.2 pts
- Roquan Smith (BAL LB), out · 0.8 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Ravens 89% · Chargers 11%
- Final margin
- Ravens by 7
- Luck in points
- 2.6 for the Chargers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Ravens by 9.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Ravens 92% · Chargers 8% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 12 2024 games ·
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