Week 5 2019 · October 6, 2019
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Jaguars at Panthers, Week 5 2019: who deserved to win?
The Panthers beat the Jaguars 34–27, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Panthers win 4 of 10. Luck ran their way: fumble bounces alone were worth 20 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Panthers were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 13:43 left): Return touchdown by the Panthers, worth 42 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
| 27 | |
| 34 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +59 Panthers lucky · −59 Jaguars
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Jaguars win 6, Panthers win 4.
- 1 JAX 42 CAR 14
- 2 JAX 40 CAR 20
- 3 JAX 34 CAR 20
- 4 JAX 22 CAR 13
- 5 JAX 15 CAR 10
- 6 JAX 29 CAR 27
- 7 JAX 37 CAR 40
- 8 JAX 13 CAR 20
- 9 JAX 20 CAR 34
- 10 JAX 23 CAR 46
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Jaguars win 59% of them, Panthers 41%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Panthers by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Jaguars by 17+ | 18.9% |
| Jaguars by 9–16 | 15.9% |
| Jaguars by 1–8 | 22.2% |
| Level after regulation | 2.4% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 17.6% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 12.8% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 10.2% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Slye, 56 yds blocked · 64% expected
- J. Lambo, 35 yds made · 93% expected
- J. Slye, 46 yds missed · 80% expected
- J. Lambo, 38 yds made · 90% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
Penalties: Jaguars 9 for 84 yards, Panthers 8 for 70 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 14:24 | Face Mask on the Jaguars (Myles Jack), 15 yards | +2% CAR +1.0 pts |
| Q1 12:43 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Jaguars, 5 yards | +1% CAR +0.7 pts |
| Q1 6:13 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Panthers (Gerald McCoy), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% JAX +0.6 pts |
| Q1 5:20 | Illegal Formation on the Jaguars (Leon Jacobs), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% JAX +0.3 pts |
| Q1 3:44 | Illegal Block Above the Waist on the Jaguars, 10 yards | +3% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q1 2:07 | False Start on the Panthers (Curtis Samuel), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% JAX +0.6 pts |
| Q2 12:47 | Roughing the Passer on the Panthers (Brian Burns), 15 yards | +4% JAX +2.4 pts |
| Q2 10:51 | Face Mask on the Jaguars (D.J. Alexander), 15 yards | +2% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q2 6:13 | Roughing the Passer on the Panthers (Brian Burns), 15 yards | +3% JAX +1.5 pts |
| Q2 6:02 | False Start on the Panthers (Ian Thomas), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% JAX +0.7 pts |
| Q3 12:23 | Offensive Holding on the Jaguars (DJ Chark), 10 yards | +3% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q3 9:07 | Roughing the Passer on the Jaguars (Yannick Ngakoue), 15 yards | +6% CAR +1.7 pts |
| Q3 5:26 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Jaguars, 5 yards, wiping out the play | +9% CAR +1.9 pts |
| Q3 4:20 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Jaguars, 4 yards | +3% CAR +0.6 pts |
| Q4 2:33 | Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Panthers, 15 yards | +4% JAX +1.4 pts |
| Q4 0:10 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Panthers, 5 yards, wiping out the play | +8% JAX +3.6 pts |
| Q4 0:02 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Brian Burns), 5 yards · pre-snap | +6% JAX +0.4 pts |
Jaguars penalties, every game · Panthers penalties, every game · All teams, 2019
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 47% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 13:43 | The Jaguars were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 37% expectedThe Jaguars fumbled and the Panthers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50Return touchdown by the PanthersSpecial teams | +42% CAR | JAX: Punt |
| 2 | Q2 6:13 | The Jaguars converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 40% expectedRoughing the Passer on the Panthers (Brian Burns), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 0 flags in 210 snaps before, position avg 1 per 393 | +8% JAX | JAX: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 4:45 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 133rd & 4th downs · 24% expected | +11% CAR | CAR: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q2 3:05 | J. Slye had a 56-yard field goal blockedKicks · 64% expected for him, 6 of 7 from 45+ before | +12% JAX | CAR: Punt |
| 5 | Q3 5:26 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Jaguars, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +9% CAR | CAR: Turnover on downs |
| 6 | Q4 11:59 | The Panthers were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 68% expected | +10% JAX | CAR: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 5:57 | J. Lambo made 38-yard field goalKicks · 90% expected for him | +10% CAR | JAX: Turnover |
| 8 | Q4 0:10 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Panthers, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +8% JAX | JAX: End of game |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Donte Jackson (CAR CB), out · 0.8 pts
- Kawann Short (CAR DE), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Trai Turner (CAR G), out · 0.5 pts
- Kawann Short (CAR DT), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Greg Little (CAR T), out · 0.3 pts
- Jalen Ramsey (JAX CB), out · 1.6 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Jaguars 10% · Panthers 90%
- Final margin
- Panthers by 7
- Luck in points
- 4.4 for the Jaguars
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Panthers by 11.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Jaguars 59% · Panthers 41% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 5 2019 games ·
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