Week 11 2021 · November 21, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Saints at Eagles, Week 11 2021: who deserved to win?
The Eagles beat the Saints 40–29, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Eagles win 6 of 10. Luck ran their way: injuries alone were worth 24 points of win probability to the Eagles.
Before kickoff the Eagles were 57% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 13:17 left): Offensive Holding on the Saints, 10 yards, wiping out the play, worth 8 points of win probability to the Eagles.
Final
| 29 | |
| 40 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +43 Eagles lucky · −43 Saints
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Saints win 4, Eagles win 6.
- 1 NO 33 PHI 10
- 2 NO 37 PHI 23
- 3 NO 18 PHI 10
- 4 NO 34 PHI 31
- 5 NO 27 PHI 29
- 6 NO 26 PHI 30
- 7 NO 23 PHI 30
- 8 NO 14 PHI 27
- 9 NO 29 PHI 47
- 10 NO 10 PHI 35
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Saints win 43% of them, Eagles 57%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Eagles by 11.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Saints by 17+ | 9.4% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 13.2% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 17.9% |
| Level after regulation | 3.1% |
| Eagles by 1–8 | 23.7% |
| Eagles by 9–16 | 15.4% |
| Eagles by 17+ | 17.3% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Elliott, 50 yds made · 69% expected
- J. Elliott, 37 yds made · 91% expected
- J. Elliott, 33 yds made · 94% expected
- J. Elliott, 47 yds made · 74% expected
- B. Maher, 28 yds made · 96% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
Penalties: Saints 3 for 25 yards, Eagles 6 for 49 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 6:04 | Offensive Holding on the Saints, 10 yards | +2% PHI +0.9 pts |
| Q1 2:58 | False Start on the Eagles (Dallas Goedert), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% NO +1.2 pts |
| Q2 15:00 | False Start on the Saints, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% PHI +0.6 pts |
| Q2 13:17 | Offensive Holding on the Saints, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +8% PHI +4.0 pts |
| Q2 5:28 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Eagles (DeVonta Smith), 10 yards, wiping out the play | +4% NO +3.5 pts |
| Q3 11:54 | Delay of Game on the Eagles, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% NO +0.4 pts |
| Q3 8:30 | False Start on the Eagles, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% PHI +0.7 pts |
| Q4 14:49 | Illegal Double-Team Block on the Eagles (Jack Stoll), 9 yards | 0% NO +0.9 pts |
| Q4 10:52 | Roughing the Passer on the Eagles (Javon Hargrave), 15 yards | +2% NO +0.8 pts |
Saints penalties, every game · Eagles penalties, every game · All teams, 2021
When it happened
Eagles’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 14:18 | The Saints converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +5% NO | NO: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 10:32 | The Eagles were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 49% expected | +6% NO | PHI: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 9:01 | The Eagles converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +5% PHI | PHI: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 7:49 | The Eagles converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +5% PHI | PHI: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 13:17 | Offensive Holding on the Saints, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +8% PHI | PHI: Field goal |
| 6 | Q2 13:09 | The Saints converted 3rd & 183rd & 4th downs · 17% expected | +7% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q2 5:28 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Eagles (DeVonta Smith), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 1 flag in 551 snaps before, position avg 1 per 399 | +4% NO | NO: Punt |
| 8 | Q2 0:34 | Return touchdown by the EaglesSpecial teams | +7% PHI | PHI: Opp touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jameis Winston (NO QB), out (IR), replaced by t.siemian · 4.5 pts
- Ryan Ramczyk (NO T), out · 1.6 pts
- Terron Armstead (NO T), out · 1.0 pts
- Alvin Kamara (NO RB), out · 0.6 pts
- Andrus Peat (NO G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Saints 16% · Eagles 84%
- Final margin
- Eagles by 11
- Luck in points
- 11.6 for the Eagles
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Saints by 0.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Saints 43% · Eagles 57% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 11 2021 games ·
Saints ·
Eagles
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- Ravens at Bears BAL 16–13 · replay 63% for the winner
- Lions at Browns CLE 13–10 · replay 70% for the winner
- Packers at Vikings MIN 34–31 · replay 44% for the winner
- Texans at Titans HOU 22–13 · replay 13% for the winner
- Colts at Bills IND 41–15 · replay 59% for the winner
- Dolphins at Jets MIA 24–17 · replay 48% for the winner
- 49ers at Jaguars SF 30–10 · replay 91% for the winner
- Washington at Panthers WAS 27–21 · replay 68% for the winner
- Bengals at Raiders CIN 32–13 · replay 50% for the winner
- Cardinals at Seahawks ARI 23–13 · replay 62% for the winner
- Cowboys at Chiefs KC 19–9 · replay 84% for the winner
- Steelers at Chargers LAC 41–37 · replay 98% for the winner
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