Week 6 2023 · October 15, 2023
Giants at Bills, Week 6 2023: who deserved to win?
The Bills beat the Giants 14–9, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Bills win 10 of 10. The Giants had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 37 points of win probability to the Giants.
Before kickoff the Bills were 87% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 1:29 left): T. Bass missed 53-yard field goal, worth 25 points of win probability to the Giants.
Final
| 9 | |
| 14 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +3 Bills about even · −3 Giants
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Giants win 0, Bills win 10.
- 1 NYG 17 BUF 19
- 2 NYG 14 BUF 20
- 3 NYG 14 BUF 23
- 4 NYG 27 BUF 38
- 5 NYG 13 BUF 27
- 6 NYG 7 BUF 24
- 7 NYG 0 BUF 20
- 8 NYG 10 BUF 33
- 9 NYG 10 BUF 37
- 10 NYG 3 BUF 38
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Giants win 3% of them, Bills 97%. The line is what actually happened: Bills by 5.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Giants by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Giants by 9–16 | 0.4% |
| Giants by 1–8 | 2.5% |
| Level after regulation | 0.4% |
| Bills by 1–8 | 12.2% |
| Bills by 9–16 | 20.3% |
| Bills by 17+ | 64.3% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- G. Gano, 29 yds made · 99% expected
- T. Bass, 52 yds missed · 70% expected
- G. Gano, 43 yds made · 85% expected
- G. Gano, 29 yds made · 99% expected
- T. Bass, 53 yds missed · 68% expected
Penalties: Giants 9 for 65 yards, Bills 7 for 51 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 5:53 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Bills (Ed Oliver), 9 yards | +3% NYG +0.9 pts |
| Q1 4:06 | False Start on the Giants, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% BUF +0.6 pts |
| Q2 14:05 | False Start on the Bills (Stefon Diggs), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% NYG +0.6 pts |
| Q2 13:56 | Offensive Holding on the Giants (Darnay Holmes), 10 yards | +3% BUF +0.6 pts |
| Q2 13:45 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Giants, 5 yards, wiping out the play | +14% BUF +4.6 pts |
| Q2 12:07 | False Start on the Giants, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% BUF +0.7 pts |
| Q2 6:19 | Illegal Shift on the Giants, 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +3% BUF +1.1 pts |
| Q2 5:08 | Offensive Holding on the Bills, 10 yards | +3% NYG +0.9 pts |
| Q2 5:03 | Roughing the Passer on the Giants (Bobby Okereke), 15 yards | +4% BUF +1.5 pts |
| Q2 5:03 | False Start on the Bills, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% NYG +0.3 pts |
| Q2 0:19 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Bills (Kaiir Elam), 9 yards | +3% NYG +1.6 pts |
| Q3 9:52 | Defensive Holding on the Giants (Leonard Williams), 5 yards | +2% BUF +0.7 pts |
| Q4 14:54 | Offensive Holding on the Giants (Cam Brown), 10 yards | +2% BUF +0.5 pts |
| Q4 12:24 | Defensive Holding on the Bills (Terrel Bernard), 5 yards | +4% NYG +0.9 pts |
| Q4 9:25 | Defensive Holding on the Giants (Adoree' Jackson), 5 yards | +3% BUF +1.1 pts |
| Q4 0:02 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Bills (Terrel Bernard), 8 yards | +10% NYG +1.7 pts |
Giants penalties, every game · Bills penalties, every game · All teams, 2023
When it happened
Bills’ chance of winning
As low as 13% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 8:38 | The Giants converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 31% expected | +13% NYG | NYG: Field goal |
| 2 | Q2 13:45 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Giants, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +14% BUF | BUF: Missed field goal |
| 3 | Q2 9:39 | T. Bass missed 52-yard field goalKicks · 70% expected for him, 27 of 35 from 45+ before | +10% NYG | BUF: Turnover |
| 4 | Q4 15:00 | The Bills converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 45% expected | +11% BUF | BUF: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q4 1:52 | The Giants were stopped on 4th & 83rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +10% BUF | NYG: End of game |
| 6 | Q4 1:29 | T. Bass missed 53-yard field goalKicks · 68% expected for him, 27 of 36 from 45+ before | +25% NYG | – |
| 7 | Q4 0:28 | The Giants were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +11% BUF | NYG: End of game |
| 8 | Q4 0:22 | The Giants converted 4th & 53rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +15% NYG | NYG: End of game |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Tre'Davious White (BUF CB), out (IR) · 1.2 pts
- Dalton Kincaid (BUF TE), out · 0.6 pts
- Matt Milano (BUF LB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- DaQuan Jones (BUF DT), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Daniel Jones (NYG QB), out, replaced by t.taylor · 2.0 pts
- Andrew Thomas (NYG T), out · 0.9 pts
- John Michael Schmitz (NYG C), out · 0.4 pts
- Azeez Ojulari (NYG DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Jarrad Davis (NYG LB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Shane Lemieux (NYG G), out · 0.1 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Giants 2% · Bills 98%
- Final margin
- Bills by 5
- Luck in points
- 9.4 for the Giants
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bills by 14.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Giants 3% · Bills 97% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 6 2023 games ·
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