Week 9 2023 · November 5, 2023
Colts at Panthers, Week 9 2023: who deserved to win?
The Colts beat the Panthers 27–13 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10.
Before kickoff the Colts were 54% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 13:52 left): Return touchdown by the Colts, worth 22 points of win probability to the Colts.
Final
| 27 | |
| 13 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +20 Colts about even · −20 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Colts win 8, Panthers win 2.
- 1 IND 37 CAR 10
- 2 IND 24 CAR 6
- 3 IND 30 CAR 16
- 4 IND 21 CAR 10
- 5 IND 9 CAR 0
- 6 IND 9 CAR 3
- 7 IND 23 CAR 20
- 8 IND 12 CAR 10
- 9 IND 17 CAR 20
- 10 IND 17 CAR 29
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Colts win 80% of them, Panthers 20%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Colts by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Colts by 17+ | 29.1% |
| Colts by 9–16 | 21.1% |
| Colts by 1–8 | 29.5% |
| Level after regulation | 1.9% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 11.1% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 5.9% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 1.3% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- M. Gay, 26 yds made · 99% expected
- E. Pineiro, 35 yds made · 94% expected
- M. Gay, 57 yds made · 65% expected
- E. Pineiro, 49 yds made · 79% expected
Penalties: Colts 5 for 25 yards, Panthers 10 for 81 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 14:03 | False Start on the Panthers, 4 yards · pre-snap | +4% IND +1.2 pts |
| Q1 11:37 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Colts, 5 yards | +2% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q1 11:10 | False Start on the Colts, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CAR +0.7 pts |
| Q1 10:20 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 9 yards | +2% IND +0.8 pts |
| Q1 4:37 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Eku Leota), 5 yards · pre-snap | +7% IND +2.4 pts |
| Q1 2:47 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers, 15 yards | +6% IND +1.8 pts |
| Q2 14:17 | False Start on the Colts (Michael Pittman Jr.), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CAR +0.6 pts |
| Q2 8:32 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers (Xavier Woods), 13 yards | +3% IND +1.3 pts |
| Q2 6:29 | Encroachment on the Colts (DeForest Buckner), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CAR +0.6 pts |
| Q2 2:55 | False Start on the Colts, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CAR +0.5 pts |
| Q3 14:21 | Illegal Contact on the Panthers (Donte Jackson), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +1% CAR +0.1 pts |
| Q3 1:55 | Tripping on the Panthers (Kamu Grugier-Hill), 5 yards | +2% IND +0.5 pts |
| Q3 0:02 | False Start on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% IND +1.3 pts |
| Q4 15:00 | False Start on the Panthers (Adam Thielen), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% IND +0.8 pts |
| Q4 6:42 | Roughing the Passer on the Panthers (Derrick Brown), 15 yards | 0% IND +1.4 pts |
Colts penalties, every game · Panthers penalties, every game · All teams, 2023
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 60%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 8:14 | The Colts fumbled and the Panthers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% CAR | IND: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 4:37 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Eku Leota), 5 yardsPre-snap flags · 0 flags in 14 snaps before, position avg 1 per 444 | +7% IND | IND: Field goal |
| 3 | Q1 2:47 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers, 15 yardsJudgment calls | +6% IND | IND: Field goal |
| 4 | Q2 2:55 | The Colts converted 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 21% expectedFalse Start on the Colts, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +6% IND | IND: Field goal |
| 5 | Q2 0:31 | The Panthers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 46% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the ColtsSpecial teams | +18% IND | CAR: End of half |
| 6 | Q3 4:41 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +6% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 15:00 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 20% expectedFalse Start on the Panthers (Adam Thielen), 5 yardsPre-snap flags · 5 flags in 3776 snaps before, position avg 1 per 420 | +8% CAR | CAR: Opp touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 13:52 | The Panthers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the ColtsSpecial teams | +22% IND | CAR: Field goal |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Vonn Bell (CAR SS), out · 0.6 pts
- Jeremy Chinn (CAR FS), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Shaq Thompson (CAR LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Brady Christensen (CAR T), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Yetur Gross-Matos (CAR LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Braden Smith (IND T), out · 1.0 pts
- Dallis Flowers (IND CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Zaire Franklin (IND LB), out · 0.4 pts
- Julius Brents (IND CB), out · 0.4 pts
- Grover Stewart (IND DT), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Colts 99% · Panthers 1%
- Final margin
- Colts by 14
- Luck in points
- 0.1 for the Colts
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Colts by 13.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Colts 80% · Panthers 20% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2023 games ·
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