Week 2 2025 · September 14, 2025
Panthers at Cardinals, Week 2 2025: who deserved to win?
The Cardinals beat the Panthers 27–22, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Cardinals win 9 of 10.
Before kickoff the Cardinals were 70% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 13:36 left): Return touchdown by the Cardinals, worth 37 points of win probability to the Cardinals.
Final
| 22 | |
| 27 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +13 Cardinals about even · −13 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 1, Cardinals win 9.
- 1 CAR 16 ARI 10
- 2 CAR 13 ARI 15
- 3 CAR 16 ARI 20
- 4 CAR 10 ARI 16
- 5 CAR 24 ARI 32
- 6 CAR 13 ARI 23
- 7 CAR 10 ARI 24
- 8 CAR 13 ARI 30
- 9 CAR 20 ARI 41
- 10 CAR 13 ARI 41
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 13% of them, Cardinals 87%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Cardinals by 5.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.4% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 2.8% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 8.3% |
| Level after regulation | 1.7% |
| Cardinals by 1–8 | 21.7% |
| Cardinals by 9–16 | 25.9% |
| Cardinals by 17+ | 39.3% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. Ryland, 29 yds made · 96% expected
- R. Fitzgerald, 27 yds made · 98% expected
- C. Ryland, 47 yds made · 75% expected
Penalties: Panthers 7 for 83 yards, Cardinals 12 for 96 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 12:02 | Defensive Holding on the Cardinals (Max Melton), 5 yards | +3% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q1 7:13 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (Michael Jackson), 38 yards | +5% ARI +4.9 pts |
| Q1 6:16 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals (Trey McBride), 10 yards, wiping out the play | +1% CAR +1.2 pts |
| Q2 8:39 | Delay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% ARI +0.8 pts |
| Q2 7:36 | Delay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% ARI +0.4 pts |
| Q2 4:24 | Face Mask on the Cardinals, 15 yards | +2% CAR +1.9 pts |
| Q2 3:18 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals, 10 yards | +2% CAR +0.6 pts |
| Q2 1:55 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers (Bam Martin-Scott), 10 yards | +2% ARI +0.9 pts |
| Q3 12:46 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Cardinals, 5 yards, wiping out the play | +1% CAR +1.6 pts |
| Q3 2:06 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Cardinals (Denzel Burke), 1 yard | 0% CAR 0.0 pts |
| Q4 12:42 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals, 10 yards | 0% ARI +1.5 pts |
| Q4 6:33 | False Start on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% ARI +0.9 pts |
| Q4 5:05 | Illegal Block Above the Waist on the Cardinals (Akeem Davis-Gaither), 10 yards | 0% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q4 1:48 | Encroachment on the Cardinals (Baron Browning), 5 yards · pre-snap | +6% CAR +0.3 pts |
| Q4 1:45 | Defensive Holding on the Cardinals (Denzel Burke), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +29% CAR +4.5 pts |
| Q4 1:09 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +26% ARI +1.9 pts |
| Q4 1:01 | Roughing the Passer on the Cardinals (Josh Sweat), 15 yards | +7% CAR +1.0 pts |
| Q4 0:54 | Intentional Grounding on the Panthers (Bryce Young), 10 yards | +4% ARI +0.9 pts |
| Q4 0:43 | Defensive Offside on the Cardinals (Dante Stills), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% CAR +0.4 pts |
Panthers penalties, every game · Cardinals penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Cardinals’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:36 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 33% expectedThe Panthers fumbled and the Cardinals recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50Return touchdown by the CardinalsSpecial teams | +37% ARI | CAR: Turnover |
| 2 | Q1 9:01 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 24% expectedThe Panthers were intercepted on a well-placed throwInterceptions · 0% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +12% ARI | CAR: Field goal |
| 3 | Q2 12:56 | The Cardinals were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +6% CAR | ARI: Punt |
| 4 | Q4 1:58 | Onside kick recovered by the PanthersSpecial teams | +19% CAR | CAR: Turnover on downs |
| 5 | Q4 1:45 | Defensive Holding on the Cardinals (Denzel Burke), 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 0 flags in 15 snaps before, position avg 1 per 213 | +29% CAR | CAR: Turnover on downs |
| 6 | Q4 1:09 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +26% ARI | ARI: End of game |
| 7 | Q4 1:01 | Roughing the Passer on the Cardinals (Josh Sweat), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 17 flags in 4107 snaps before, position avg 1 per 445 | +7% CAR | CAR: Turnover on downs |
| 8 | Q4 0:33 | The Panthers were stopped on 4th & 153rd & 4th downs · 20% expected | +15% ARI | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Sean Murphy-Bunting (ARI CB), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Christian Jones (ARI T), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Jalen Coker (CAR WR), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 14% · Cardinals 86%
- Final margin
- Cardinals by 5
- Luck in points
- 5.9 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Cardinals by 10.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 13% · Cardinals 87% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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