Week 8 2025 · October 23, 2025
Vikings at Chargers, Week 8 2025: who deserved to win?
The Chargers beat the Vikings 37–10, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Chargers win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the Chargers were 59% favorites.
Final
| 10 | |
| 37 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +2 Chargers about even · −2 Vikings
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Vikings win 0, Chargers win 10.
- 1 MIN 10 LAC 13
- 2 MIN 10 LAC 18
- 3 MIN 13 LAC 24
- 4 MIN 14 LAC 28
- 5 MIN 21 LAC 37
- 6 MIN 3 LAC 23
- 7 MIN 3 LAC 24
- 8 MIN 6 LAC 30
- 9 MIN 6 LAC 34
- 10 MIN 0 LAC 34
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Vikings win 2% of them, Chargers 98%. The line is what actually happened: Chargers by 27.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Vikings by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Vikings by 9–16 | 0.3% |
| Vikings by 1–8 | 1.1% |
| Level after regulation | 0.4% |
| Chargers by 1–8 | 5.0% |
| Chargers by 9–16 | 13.3% |
| Chargers by 17+ | 79.9% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Reichard, 54 yds made · 70% expected
- C. Dicker, 49 yds missed · 82% expected
- W. Reichard, 53 yds missed · 72% expected
- C. Dicker, 43 yds made · 87% expected
- C. Dicker, 34 yds made · 96% expected
- C. Dicker, 45 yds made · 87% expected
Penalties: Vikings 8 for 66 yards, Chargers 8 for 46 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 15:00 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings (Tyler Batty), 10 yards | +3% LAC +0.9 pts |
| Q1 5:43 | Roughing the Passer on the Vikings (Dallas Turner), 9 yards | +3% LAC +0.9 pts |
| Q1 4:05 | Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Chargers (Oronde Gadsden II), 15 yards | +3% MIN +1.3 pts |
| Q1 4:01 | Illegal Formation on the Vikings (Ivan Pace), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% LAC +0.4 pts |
| Q1 2:12 | Defensive Offside on the Vikings (Jonathan Greenard), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% LAC +0.6 pts |
| Q2 6:06 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings, 10 yards | +2% LAC +1.3 pts |
| Q2 4:12 | Offensive Holding on the Chargers (Ja'Sir Taylor), 6 yards | +1% MIN +0.5 pts |
| Q2 0:45 | Kickoff Short of Landing Zone on the Chargers (Cameron Dicker), 0 yards · pre-snap | 0% MIN 0.0 pts |
| Q3 10:01 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings (Tyler Batty), 10 yards | +1% LAC +0.9 pts |
| Q3 4:49 | Defensive Too Many Men on Field on the Chargers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% MIN +0.2 pts |
| Q3 4:46 | Illegal Contact on the Chargers (Benjamin St-Juste), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +3% MIN +2.8 pts |
| Q3 3:00 | False Start on the Chargers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% MIN +0.6 pts |
| Q4 12:59 | Defensive Too Many Men on Field on the Vikings, 1 yard · pre-snap | 0% LAC +0.3 pts |
| Q4 12:48 | False Start on the Chargers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% MIN +1.0 pts |
| Q4 9:44 | Face Mask on the Vikings (Josh Metellus), 16 yards | 0% LAC +3.2 pts |
| Q4 1:52 | Encroachment on the Chargers (Naquan Jones), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% MIN +0.5 pts |
Vikings penalties, every game · Chargers penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Chargers’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 14:03 | The Vikings converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 24% expected | +6% MIN | MIN: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 10:56 | The Chargers got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · 52% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +6% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 10:53 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 133rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +6% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 5:43 | Roughing the Passer on the Vikings (Dallas Turner), 9 yardsJudgment calls · 5 flags in 852 snaps before, position avg 1 per 445 | +3% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q1 4:05 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 25% expectedUnsportsmanlike Conduct on the Chargers (Oronde Gadsden II), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 1 flag in 216 snaps before, position avg 1 per 278 | +3% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q1 3:01 | The Vikings were stopped on 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 22% expected | +3% LAC | MIN: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 6:10 | C. Dicker missed 49-yard field goalKicks · 82% expected for him, 32 of 37 from 45+ before | +4% MIN | LAC: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q2 4:17 | The Vikings were stopped on 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 56% expected | +3% LAC | MIN: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Austin Deculus (LAC T), out · 0.3 pts
- Omarion Hampton (LAC RB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Da'Shawn Hand (LAC DL), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Brian O'Neill (MIN T), out · 1.1 pts
- Andrew Van Ginkel (MIN LB), out · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Vikings 0% · Chargers 100%
- Final margin
- Chargers by 27
- Luck in points
- 6.7 for the Chargers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chargers by 20.3
- Replay with same day's form
- Vikings 2% · Chargers 98% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2025 games ·
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