Week 8 2025 · October 26, 2025
Jets at Bengals, Week 8 2025: who deserved to win?
The Jets beat the Bengals 39–38, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Jets win 6 of 10. Luck ran their way: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 11 points of win probability to the Jets.
Before kickoff the Bengals were 66% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 0:32 left): the Bengals were stopped on 4th & 9, worth 27 points of win probability to the Jets.
Final
| 39 | |
| 38 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +44 Jets lucky · −44 Bengals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Jets win 6, Bengals win 4.
- 1 NYJ 27 CIN 3
- 2 NYJ 41 CIN 23
- 3 NYJ 30 CIN 17
- 4 NYJ 37 CIN 28
- 5 NYJ 20 CIN 14
- 6 NYJ 23 CIN 21
- 7 NYJ 27 CIN 29
- 8 NYJ 13 CIN 20
- 9 NYJ 17 CIN 29
- 10 NYJ 10 CIN 31
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Jets win 56% of them, Bengals 44%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Jets by 1.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Jets by 17+ | 14.3% |
| Jets by 9–16 | 16.6% |
| Jets by 1–8 | 25.2% |
| Level after regulation | 2.7% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 18.9% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 14.2% |
| Bengals by 17+ | 8.1% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. McPherson, 26 yds made · 98% expected
- N. Folk, 46 yds made · 84% expected
- N. Folk, 25 yds made · 100% expected
- N. Folk, 24 yds made · 100% expected
Penalties: Jets 4 for 25 yards, Bengals 2 for 15 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q2 3:23 | Offensive Holding on the Bengals, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +5% NYJ +1.9 pts |
| Q2 1:28 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Jets (Quinnen Williams), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CIN +0.6 pts |
| Q2 0:24 | Illegal Contact on the Bengals (Cam Taylor-Britt), 5 yards | +2% NYJ +0.7 pts |
| Q3 10:58 | Offensive Holding on the Jets (Qwan'tez Stiggers), 10 yards | +2% CIN +0.8 pts |
| Q3 10:43 | False Start on the Jets (Mason Taylor), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CIN +0.7 pts |
| Q4 15:00 | False Start on the Jets (Breece Hall), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CIN +0.7 pts |
Jets penalties, every game · Bengals penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Bengals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 97%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:06 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +6% CIN | CIN: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 8:20 | The Jets were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +9% CIN | NYJ: Punt |
| 3 | Q2 5:23 | The Jets converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 61% expected | +8% NYJ | NYJ: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 3:23 | Offensive Holding on the Bengals, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +5% NYJ | NYJ: Field goal |
| 5 | Q3 14:08 | The Jets converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +5% NYJ | NYJ: Punt |
| 6 | Q4 7:41 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +5% NYJ | CIN: Punt |
| 7 | Q4 0:37 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +6% NYJ | CIN: Turnover on downs |
| 8 | Q4 0:32 | The Bengals were stopped on 4th & 93rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +27% NYJ | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Joe Burrow (CIN QB), out (IR), replaced by j.flacco · 4.9 pts
- Mike Gesicki (CIN TE), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Tyrod Taylor (NYJ QB), out, replaced by j.fields · 1.5 pts
- Sauce Gardner (NYJ CB), out · 1.4 pts
- Garrett Wilson (NYJ WR), out · 1.1 pts
- Josh Reynolds (NYJ WR), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Jets 51% · Bengals 49%
- Final margin
- Jets by 1
- Luck in points
- 1.2 for the Jets
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bengals by 0.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Jets 56% · Bengals 44% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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