Week 8 2025 · October 26, 2025
Browns at Patriots, Week 8 2025: who deserved to win?
The Patriots beat the Browns 32–13, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Patriots win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the Patriots were 70% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 13:12 left): the Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 9, worth 14 points of win probability to the Browns.
Final
| 13 | |
| 32 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +1 Patriots about even · −1 Browns
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Browns win 0, Patriots win 10.
- 1 CLE 21 NE 24
- 2 CLE 10 NE 20
- 3 CLE 10 NE 24
- 4 CLE 12 NE 30
- 5 CLE 3 NE 24
- 6 CLE 21 NE 45
- 7 CLE 6 NE 33
- 8 CLE 6 NE 37
- 9 CLE 3 NE 37
- 10 CLE 10 NE 52
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Browns win 1% of them, Patriots 99%. The line is what actually happened: Patriots by 19.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Browns by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Browns by 9–16 | 0.0% |
| Browns by 1–8 | 0.4% |
| Level after regulation | 0.1% |
| Patriots by 1–8 | 2.2% |
| Patriots by 9–16 | 8.7% |
| Patriots by 17+ | 88.5% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- A. Borregales, 36 yds made · 92% expected
- A. Szmyt, 47 yds missed · 77% expected
- A. Borregales, 32 yds made · 95% expected
- A. Borregales, 42 yds made · 84% expected
Penalties: Browns 5 for 31 yards, Patriots 7 for 54 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 3:22 | Face Mask on the Patriots (Brenden Schooler), 15 yards | +4% CLE +0.9 pts |
| Q2 4:50 | False Start on the Patriots, 4 yards · pre-snap | +3% CLE +0.9 pts |
| Q2 0:29 | False Start on the Patriots (Hunter Henry), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CLE +0.3 pts |
| Q3 15:00 | Illegal Formation on the Patriots (Marte Mapu), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CLE +0.4 pts |
| Q3 13:20 | Offensive Holding on the Patriots (Richie Grant), 10 yards | +4% CLE +1.4 pts |
| Q3 6:43 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Browns (Myles Harden), 14 yards | +2% NE +1.2 pts |
| Q3 1:51 | Defensive Holding on the Browns (Myles Harden), 5 yards | 0% NE +1.2 pts |
| Q3 0:10 | Defensive Holding on the Patriots (Carlton Davis), 5 yards | 0% CLE +1.1 pts |
| Q4 12:18 | Delay of Game on the Browns, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% NE +0.1 pts |
| Q4 8:01 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Patriots (Stefon Diggs), 10 yards | 0% CLE +1.3 pts |
| Q4 7:56 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Browns (Myles Harden), 5 yards | 0% NE +1.8 pts |
| Q4 4:11 | Intentional Grounding on the Browns (Dillon Gabriel), 2 yards | 0% NE +0.2 pts |
Browns penalties, every game · Patriots penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Patriots’ chance of winning
As low as 27% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 9:30 | The Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +7% CLE | NE: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 7:19 | The Browns converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +10% CLE | CLE: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 13:12 | The Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 30% expectedThe Patriots threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 48% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +14% CLE | NE: Field goal |
| 4 | Q2 11:26 | A. Szmyt missed 47-yard field goalKicks · 76% expected for him, 3 of 4 from 45+ before | +8% NE | CLE: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 8:25 | The Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +10% CLE | NE: Field goal |
| 6 | Q2 1:16 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 52% expected | +10% NE | NE: Field goal |
| 7 | Q2 1:00 | The Patriots fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +8% NE | NE: Field goal |
| 8 | Q3 7:41 | The Browns were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 31% expectedThe Browns threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 51% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +9% NE | CLE: Turnover |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Cornelius Lucas (CLE T), out · 0.6 pts
- Cedric Tillman (CLE WR), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Dawand Jones (CLE T), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Browns 1% · Patriots 99%
- Final margin
- Patriots by 19
- Luck in points
- 6.2 for the Patriots
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Patriots by 12.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Browns 1% · Patriots 99% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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