Week 9 2022 · November 6, 2022
Rams at Buccaneers, Week 9 2022: who deserved to win?
The Buccaneers beat the Rams 16–13, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Buccaneers win 8 of 10. The Rams had the bounces: drops alone were worth 16 points of win probability to the Rams.
Before kickoff the Buccaneers were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 1:57 left): the Buccaneers were stopped on 4th & 6, worth 17 points of win probability to the Rams.
Final
| 13 | |
| 16 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +18 Buccaneers about even · −18 Rams
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Rams win 2, Buccaneers win 8.
- 1 LA 16 TB 3
- 2 LA 16 TB 12
- 3 LA 13 TB 15
- 4 LA 21 TB 26
- 5 LA 24 TB 32
- 6 LA 8 TB 19
- 7 LA 6 TB 20
- 8 LA 10 TB 27
- 9 LA 6 TB 28
- 10 LA 17 TB 46
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Rams win 18% of them, Buccaneers 82%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Buccaneers by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Rams by 17+ | 1.7% |
| Rams by 9–16 | 5.1% |
| Rams by 1–8 | 11.7% |
| Level after regulation | 1.3% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 23.7% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 20.2% |
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 36.4% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- R. Succop, 20 yds made · 99% expected
- R. Succop, 52 yds blocked · 69% expected
- R. Succop, 38 yds made · 90% expected
- M. Gay, 26 yds made · 98% expected
- M. Gay, 35 yds made · 93% expected
- R. Succop, 50 yds made · 71% expected
Penalties: Rams 4 for 53 yards, Buccaneers 7 for 55 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 12:43 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards | +2% LA +1.0 pts |
| Q1 6:24 | Defensive Offside on the Buccaneers (Joe Tryon-Shoyinka), 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +4% LA +1.4 pts |
| Q1 3:18 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +3% LA +1.8 pts |
| Q1 0:15 | Defensive Offside on the Buccaneers (Genard Avery), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% LA +0.3 pts |
| Q2 1:41 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Rams, 32 yards | +3% TB +1.7 pts |
| Q3 14:17 | Offensive Holding on the Rams, 10 yards | +3% TB +0.9 pts |
| Q3 7:56 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +7% LA +2.0 pts |
| Q3 7:46 | False Start on the Buccaneers (Anthony Nelson), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% LA +0.3 pts |
| Q4 9:19 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +8% LA +1.9 pts |
| Q4 0:16 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Rams, 6 yards | +6% TB +0.8 pts |
| Q4 0:09 | False Start on the Rams, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% TB 0.0 pts |
Rams penalties, every game · Buccaneers penalties, every game · All teams, 2022
When it happened
Buccaneers’ chance of winning
As low as 10% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 4:44 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +8% TB | TB: Missed field goal |
| 2 | Q2 3:07 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 35% expectedK. Vaughn dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 0 catchable balls before this | +11% LA | TB: Missed field goal |
| 3 | Q3 12:07 | The Rams converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +9% LA | LA: Field goal |
| 4 | Q4 4:29 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +9% TB | TB: Turnover on downs |
| 5 | Q4 3:35 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 58% expected | +15% TB | TB: Turnover on downs |
| 6 | Q4 2:02 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +10% LA | TB: Turnover on downs |
| 7 | Q4 1:57 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 4th & 63rd & 4th downs · 27% expectedThe Buccaneers got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · 45% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +17% LA | TB: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 0:24 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +13% TB | TB: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Luke Goedeke (TB G), out · 0.4 pts
- Russell Gage (TB WR), out · 0.3 pts
- Logan Ryan (TB FS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Cameron Brate (TB TE), out · 0.3 pts
- Shaquil Barrett (TB LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- David Edwards (LA G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Joseph Noteboom (LA T), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Coleman Shelton (LA G), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Jordan Fuller (LA SS), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Rams 1% · Buccaneers 99%
- Final margin
- Buccaneers by 3
- Luck in points
- 14.2 for the Rams
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Buccaneers by 17.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Rams 18% · Buccaneers 82% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2022 games ·
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