Week 7 2023 · October 22, 2023
Commanders at Giants, Week 7 2023: who deserved to win?
The Giants beat the Commanders 14–7, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Giants win 4 of 10.
Before kickoff the Commanders were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 1:01 left): the Commanders were stopped on 4th & 5, worth 23 points of win probability to the Giants.
Final
| 7 | |
| 14 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +59 Giants lucky · −59 Commanders
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Commanders win 6, Giants win 4.
- 1 WAS 32 NYG 6
- 2 WAS 34 NYG 16
- 3 WAS 40 NYG 26
- 4 WAS 26 NYG 17
- 5 WAS 20 NYG 16
- 6 WAS 24 NYG 22
- 7 WAS 16 NYG 18
- 8 WAS 16 NYG 23
- 9 WAS 14 NYG 27
- 10 WAS 13 NYG 33
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Commanders win 59% of them, Giants 41%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Giants by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Commanders by 17+ | 17.0% |
| Commanders by 9–16 | 17.1% |
| Commanders by 1–8 | 23.1% |
| Level after regulation | 2.7% |
| Giants by 1–8 | 18.3% |
| Giants by 9–16 | 11.9% |
| Giants by 17+ | 10.0% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- G. Gano, 42 yds missed · 84% expected
- J. Slye, 27 yds blocked · 97% expected
Penalties: Commanders 10 for 75 yards, Giants 4 for 40 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 12:48 | False Start on the Commanders, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% NYG +0.3 pts |
| Q2 14:31 | Offensive Holding on the Giants, 10 yards | +6% WAS +1.4 pts |
| Q2 9:43 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Commanders, 15 yards | +3% NYG +1.4 pts |
| Q2 8:14 | Delay of Game on the Commanders, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% NYG +0.4 pts |
| Q2 6:10 | Offensive Holding on the Commanders, 10 yards | +2% NYG +1.0 pts |
| Q2 0:37 | Offensive Holding on the Giants, 10 yards | +3% WAS +0.7 pts |
| Q3 6:24 | Intentional Grounding on the Commanders (Sam Howell), 10 yards | +2% NYG +1.0 pts |
| Q3 4:03 | False Start on the Commanders, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% NYG +0.7 pts |
| Q3 1:18 | Offensive Holding on the Commanders (Tariq Castro-Fields), 10 yards | +4% NYG +0.9 pts |
| Q3 1:06 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Giants (Xavier McKinney), 15 yards | +4% WAS +2.1 pts |
| Q3 0:07 | False Start on the Commanders, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% NYG +0.7 pts |
| Q4 12:09 | Illegal Contact on the Commanders (Jamin Davis), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +8% NYG +2.9 pts |
| Q4 7:43 | Defensive Holding on the Giants (Deonte Banks), 5 yards | +4% WAS +0.8 pts |
| Q4 2:49 | False Start on the Commanders, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% NYG +0.5 pts |
Commanders penalties, every game · Giants penalties, every game · All teams, 2023
When it happened
Giants’ chance of winning
As low as 41% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 10:32 | The Giants converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +9% NYG | NYG: Missed field goal |
| 2 | Q1 8:25 | G. Gano missed 42-yard field goalKicks · 84% expected for him | +10% WAS | NYG: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 4:42 | The Commanders were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 42% expected | +9% NYG | WAS: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 14:22 | The Giants converted 3rd & 153rd & 4th downs · 20% expected | +10% NYG | NYG: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 0:07 | The Commanders converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 26% expectedFalse Start on the Commanders, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +9% WAS | WAS: Missed field goal |
| 6 | Q4 12:09 | Illegal Contact on the Commanders (Jamin Davis), 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 3 flags in 1766 snaps before, position avg 1 per 444 | +8% NYG | NYG: Turnover |
| 7 | Q4 2:00 | The Commanders converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 69% expected | +8% WAS | WAS: Turnover on downs |
| 8 | Q4 1:01 | The Commanders were stopped on 4th & 53rd & 4th downs · 29% expectedJ. Dotson dropped a catchable passDrops · 5 drops on 67 catchable balls before this | +23% NYG | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Daniel Jones (NYG QB), out, replaced by t.taylor · 2.0 pts
- Andrew Thomas (NYG T), out · 0.9 pts
- Adoree' Jackson (NYG CB), out · 0.7 pts
- Evan Neal (NYG T), out · 0.7 pts
- John Michael Schmitz (NYG C), out · 0.4 pts
- Azeez Ojulari (NYG DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Jarrad Davis (NYG LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Joshua Ezeudu (NYG G), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Jeremy Reaves (WAS FS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Darrick Forrest (WAS SS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Darrick Forrest (WAS FS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Commanders 33% · Giants 67%
- Final margin
- Giants by 7
- Luck in points
- 0.7 for the Commanders
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Giants by 7.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Commanders 59% · Giants 41% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 7 2023 games ·
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