Week 4 2023 · October 1, 2023
Commanders at Eagles, Week 4 2023: who deserved to win?
The Eagles beat the Commanders 34–31, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Eagles win 9 of 10. The Commanders had the bounces: drops alone were worth 35 points of win probability to the Commanders.
Before kickoff the Eagles were 76% favorites. The biggest swing (QOT, 4:04 left): J. Elliott made 54-yard field goal, worth 33 points of win probability to the Eagles.
Final (OT)
| 31 | |
| 34 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +11 Eagles about even · −11 Commanders
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Commanders win 1, Eagles win 9.
- 1 WAS 27 PHI 20
- 2 WAS 14 PHI 16
- 3 WAS 10 PHI 14
- 4 WAS 37 PHI 44
- 5 WAS 17 PHI 27
- 6 WAS 17 PHI 30
- 7 WAS 10 PHI 27
- 8 WAS 10 PHI 30
- 9 WAS 3 PHI 26
- 10 WAS 0 PHI 31
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Commanders win 11% of them, Eagles 89%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Eagles by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Commanders by 17+ | 0.6% |
| Commanders by 9–16 | 2.1% |
| Commanders by 1–8 | 6.9% |
| Level after regulation | 1.6% |
| Eagles by 1–8 | 17.8% |
| Eagles by 9–16 | 22.4% |
| Eagles by 17+ | 48.5% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Slye, 27 yds made · 97% expected
- J. Elliott, 41 yds made · 86% expected
- J. Elliott, 47 yds made · 76% expected
- J. Elliott, 36 yds made · 92% expected
- J. Elliott, 54 yds made · 64% expected
Penalties: Commanders 7 for 41 yards, Eagles 11 for 81 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 8:58 | Defensive Holding on the Eagles (Nicholas Morrow), 5 yards | +3% WAS +1.0 pts |
| Q1 8:58 | False Start on the Commanders (Logan Thomas), 5 yards · pre-snap | +4% PHI +0.5 pts |
| Q1 6:09 | False Start on the Eagles, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% WAS +0.5 pts |
| Q1 3:56 | Face Mask on the Commanders (Benjamin St-Juste), 15 yards | +6% PHI +1.7 pts |
| Q2 13:40 | Defensive Offside on the Eagles (Nolan Smith), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% WAS +0.5 pts |
| Q2 13:34 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Eagles (Terrell Edmunds), 2 yards | +2% WAS +0.8 pts |
| Q2 10:36 | Offensive Offside on the Eagles, 4 yards · pre-snap | +1% WAS +1.0 pts |
| Q2 2:00 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Eagles (James Bradberry), 9 yards | +3% WAS +1.9 pts |
| Q3 10:59 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Eagles (Darius Slay), 5 yards | +2% WAS +1.0 pts |
| Q3 8:45 | Defensive Holding on the Commanders (Jamin Davis), 5 yards | +3% PHI +1.1 pts |
| Q3 7:24 | Roughing the Passer on the Commanders (Montez Sweat), 1 yard | 0% PHI +0.1 pts |
| Q3 1:17 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Commanders (Kendall Fuller), 5 yards | +4% PHI +1.6 pts |
| Q4 10:55 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Eagles (Terrell Edmunds), 15 yards | +4% WAS +2.4 pts |
| Q4 9:41 | Illegal Formation on the Commanders (Dyami Brown), 5 yards · pre-snap | +5% PHI +1.2 pts |
| Q4 6:49 | False Start on the Eagles, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% WAS +0.5 pts |
| Q4 3:39 | False Start on the Commanders, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% PHI +0.2 pts |
| Q4 1:49 | Taunting on the Eagles (A.J. Brown), 15 yards | +4% WAS +1.4 pts |
| QOT 4:50 | Intentional Grounding on the Eagles (Jalen Hurts), 11 yards | +9% WAS +1.4 pts |
Commanders penalties, every game · Eagles penalties, every game · All teams, 2023
When it happened
Eagles’ chance of winning
As low as 18% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 14:22 | The Commanders converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +11% WAS | WAS: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q4 6:49 | A. Brown dropped a catchable passDrops · 6 drops on 151 catchable balls before thisFalse Start on the Eagles, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +15% WAS | PHI: Punt |
| 3 | Q4 2:40 | O. Zaccheaus dropped a catchable passDrops · 1 drops on 48 catchable balls before this | +19% WAS | PHI: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q4 2:34 | The Eagles converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +19% PHI | PHI: Touchdown |
| 5 | QOT 7:39 | The Eagles were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 56% expected | +15% WAS | PHI: Field goal |
| 6 | QOT 7:13 | The Eagles converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 76% expected | +20% PHI | PHI: Field goal |
| 7 | QOT 4:44 | The Eagles were stopped on 3rd & 173rd & 4th downs · 22% expected | +18% PHI | PHI: Field goal |
| 8 | QOT 4:04 | J. Elliott made 54-yard field goalKicks · 64% expected for him, 23 of 34 from 45+ before | +33% PHI | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Quez Watkins (PHI WR), out · 0.3 pts
- Avonte Maddox (PHI CB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Justin Evans (PHI FS), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Commanders 6% · Eagles 94%
- Final margin
- Eagles by 3
- Luck in points
- 9.8 for the Commanders
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Eagles by 12.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Commanders 11% · Eagles 89% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 4 2023 games ·
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