Week 10 2019 · November 10, 2019
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Giants at Jets, Week 10 2019: who deserved to win?
The Jets beat the Giants 34–27 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10.
An off day for the Giants: they played far below what the matchup promised. In a fresh game against the Jets they would win 54% of the time; with this day’s form, 23%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Giants were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 14:23 left): the Giants were stopped on 3rd & 1, worth 57 points of win probability to the Jets.
Final
| 27 | |
| 34 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +23 Jets about even · −23 Giants
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Giants win 2, Jets win 8.
- 1 NYG 23 NYJ 10
- 2 NYG 13 NYJ 10
- 3 NYG 27 NYJ 29
- 4 NYG 12 NYJ 17
- 5 NYG 17 NYJ 24
- 6 NYG 19 NYJ 30
- 7 NYG 14 NYJ 28
- 8 NYG 13 NYJ 30
- 9 NYG 17 NYJ 39
- 10 NYG 0 NYJ 30
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Giants
They played far below what the matchup promised. In a fresh game against the Jets they would win 54% of the time; with this day’s form, 23%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
31 points apart for the Giants: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Giants offenseEPA per play gained | +0.06 | +0.10 | worse by 0.03 |
| Giants defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.03 | +0.17 | better by 0.14 |
| Jets offenseEPA per play gained | +0.03 | +0.02 | better by 0.00 |
| Jets defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.06 | +0.15 | better by 0.08 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Giants win 23% of them, Jets 77%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Jets by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Giants by 17+ | 2.9% |
| Giants by 9–16 | 7.1% |
| Giants by 1–8 | 12.1% |
| Level after regulation | 2.2% |
| Jets by 1–8 | 24.3% |
| Jets by 9–16 | 21.6% |
| Jets by 17+ | 29.8% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- S. Ficken, 54 yds missed · 63% expected
- S. Ficken, 53 yds made · 63% expected
- S. Ficken, 35 yds made · 92% expected
- Extra point missed · 80% expected
Penalties: Giants 6 for 62 yards, Jets 7 for 54 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 8:18 | Defensive Offside on the Giants (Markus Golden), 4 yards · pre-snap | +1% NYJ +0.7 pts |
| Q2 14:15 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Jets (Nate Hairston), 15 yards | +4% NYG +2.3 pts |
| Q2 13:33 | Defensive Offside on the Jets, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% NYG +0.4 pts |
| Q2 12:45 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Jets, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% NYG +0.7 pts |
| Q2 11:17 | Defensive Holding on the Giants (Deandre Baker), 5 yards | +4% NYJ +1.5 pts |
| Q2 7:24 | Defensive Holding on the Jets (Nate Hairston), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +4% NYG +1.2 pts |
| Q2 5:24 | Offensive Holding on the Jets, 10 yards | +1% NYG +0.9 pts |
| Q2 4:36 | Offensive Holding on the Jets, 9 yards, wiping out the play | +14% NYG +3.4 pts |
| Q3 11:51 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Giants (Golden Tate), 10 yards | +1% NYJ 0.0 pts |
| Q3 7:16 | Illegal Formation on the Giants, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% NYJ +0.7 pts |
| Q4 15:00 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Giants (Deandre Baker), 33 yards | +14% NYJ +2.6 pts |
| Q4 3:33 | False Start on the Giants, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% NYJ +0.4 pts |
| Q4 0:29 | Delay of Game on the Jets, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% NYG +0.1 pts |
Giants penalties, every game · Jets penalties, every game · All teams, 2019
When it happened
Jets’ chance of winning
As low as 26% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 11:29 | The Jets converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +13% NYJ | NYJ: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 5:33 | The Giants converted 4th & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +16% NYG | NYG: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 4:36 | Offensive Holding on the Jets, 9 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +14% NYG | NYG: Turnover on downs |
| 4 | Q2 2:00 | The Giants were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 72% expected | +13% NYJ | NYG: Punt |
| 5 | Q3 14:23 | The Giants were stopped on 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 72% expectedThe Giants fumbled and the Jets recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50Return touchdown by the JetsSpecial teams | +57% NYJ | NYG: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 12:01 | The Giants converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +20% NYG | NYG: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 5:26 | The Giants converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 50% expected | +13% NYG | NYG: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 15:00 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Giants (Deandre Baker), 33 yardsJudgment calls · 4 flags in 589 snaps before, position avg 1 per 199 | +14% NYJ | NYJ: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Trumaine Johnson (NYJ CB), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Ryan Kalil (NYJ C), out · 0.6 pts
- C.J. Mosley (NYJ LB), out · 0.5 pts
- Darryl Roberts (NYJ CB), out · 0.4 pts
- Neville Hewitt (NYJ LB), out · 0.3 pts
- Blake Cashman (NYJ LB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Evan Engram (NYG TE), out · 1.0 pts
- Mike Remmers (NYG T), out · 0.6 pts
- Sterling Shepard (NYG WR), out · 0.6 pts
- Jon Halapio (NYG C), out · 0.3 pts
- Ryan Connelly (NYG LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Giants 6% · Jets 94%
- Final margin
- Jets by 7
- Luck in points
- 5.2 for the Giants
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Jets by 12.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Giants 23% · Jets 77% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 10 2019 games ·
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Jets
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